From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 3/6] i2c: add docs to clarify DMA handling
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:08:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170921150821.000036a3@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170920165626.2b41a587@recife.lan>
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:56:48 -0300
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com> wrote:
> Em Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:59:53 +0200
> Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com> escreveu:
>
> > Signed-off-by: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
>
> Documentation looks OK on my eyes. So:
>
> Reviewed-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
Really minor suggestion inline. I don't really care either way as
what you had is perfectly comprehensible.
Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
>
> > ---
> > Documentation/i2c/DMA-considerations | 58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 58 insertions(+)
> > create mode 100644 Documentation/i2c/DMA-considerations
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/i2c/DMA-considerations b/Documentation/i2c/DMA-considerations
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 00000000000000..5a63355c6a9b6f
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/i2c/DMA-considerations
> > @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@
> > +=================
> > +Linux I2C and DMA
> > +=================
> > +
> > +Given that I2C is a low-speed bus where largely small messages are transferred,
Slightly nicer as:
Given that i2c is a low-speed bus, over which the majority of messages transferred are small,
> > +it is not considered a prime user of DMA access. At this time of writing, only
> > +10% of I2C bus master drivers have DMA support implemented. And the vast
> > +majority of transactions are so small that setting up DMA for it will likely
> > +add more overhead than a plain PIO transfer.
> > +
> > +Therefore, it is *not* mandatory that the buffer of an I2C message is DMA safe.
> > +It does not seem reasonable to apply additional burdens when the feature is so
> > +rarely used. However, it is recommended to use a DMA-safe buffer if your
> > +message size is likely applicable for DMA. Most drivers have this threshold
> > +around 8 bytes (as of today, this is mostly an educated guess, however). For
> > +any message of 16 byte or larger, it is probably a really good idea. Please
> > +note that other subsystems you use might add requirements. E.g., if your
> > +I2C bus master driver is using USB as a bridge, then you need to have DMA
> > +safe buffers always, because USB requires it.
> > +
> > +For clients, if you use a DMA safe buffer in i2c_msg, set the I2C_M_DMA_SAFE
> > +flag with it. Then, the I2C core and drivers know they can safely operate DMA
> > +on it. Note that using this flag is optional. I2C host drivers which are not
> > +updated to use this flag will work like before. And like before, they risk
> > +using an unsafe DMA buffer. To improve this situation, using I2C_M_DMA_SAFE in
> > +more and more clients and host drivers is the planned way forward. Note also
> > +that setting this flag makes only sense in kernel space. User space data is
> > +copied into kernel space anyhow. The I2C core makes sure the destination
> > +buffers in kernel space are always DMA capable.
> > +
> > +FIXME: Need to implement i2c_master_{send|receive}_dma and proper buffers for i2c_smbus_xfer_emulated.
> > +
> > +Drivers wishing to implement safe DMA can use helper functions from the I2C
> > +core. One gives you a DMA-safe buffer for a given i2c_msg as long as a certain
> > +threshold is met::
> > +
> > + dma_buf = i2c_get_dma_safe_msg_buf(msg, threshold_in_byte);
> > +
> > +If a buffer is returned, it is either msg->buf for the I2C_M_DMA_SAFE case or a
> > +bounce buffer. But you don't need to care about that detail, just use the
> > +returned buffer. If NULL is returned, the threshold was not met or a bounce
> > +buffer could not be allocated. Fall back to PIO in that case.
> > +
> > +In any case, a buffer obtained from above needs to be released. It ensures data
> > +is copied back to the message and a potentially used bounce buffer is freed::
> > +
> > + i2c_release_dma_safe_msg_buf(msg, dma_buf);
> > +
> > +The bounce buffer handling from the core is generic and simple. It will always
> > +allocate a new bounce buffer. If you want a more sophisticated handling (e.g.
> > +reusing pre-allocated buffers), you are free to implement your own.
> > +
> > +Please also check the in-kernel documentation for details. The i2c-sh_mobile
> > +driver can be used as a reference example how to use the above helpers.
> > +
> > +Final note: If you plan to use DMA with I2C (or with anything else, actually)
> > +make sure you have CONFIG_DMA_API_DEBUG enabled during development. It can help
> > +you find various issues which can be complex to debug otherwise.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mauro
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-21 14:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-20 18:59 [RFC PATCH v5 0/6] i2c: document DMA handling and add helpers for it Wolfram Sang
2017-09-20 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/6] i2c: add a message flag for DMA safe buffers Wolfram Sang
2017-09-20 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/6] i2c: add helpers to ease DMA handling Wolfram Sang
2017-09-21 13:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
[not found] ` <20170921145922.000017b5-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-21 14:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-09-21 14:15 ` Wolfram Sang
2017-09-21 14:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-09-20 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v5 3/6] i2c: add docs to clarify " Wolfram Sang
2017-09-20 19:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-09-21 14:08 ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2017-09-20 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v5 4/6] i2c: sh_mobile: use helper to decide if DMA is useful Wolfram Sang
2017-09-20 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v5 5/6] i2c: rcar: skip DMA if buffer is not safe Wolfram Sang
2017-09-20 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v5 6/6] i2c: dev: mark RDWR buffers as DMA_SAFE Wolfram Sang
2017-09-21 14:17 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-09-21 14:23 ` Wolfram Sang
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