From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
Cc: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
Laxman Dewangan <ldewangan@nvidia.com>,
Manikanta Maddireddy <mmaddireddy@nvidia.com>,
Vidya Sagar <vidyas@nvidia.com>,
linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] i2c: tegra: Better handle case where CPU0 is busy for a long time
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:14:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200429081448.GA2345465@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ab276cf-c2b0-e085-49d8-b8ce3dba8fbe@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 06:18:34PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> 27.04.2020 18:12, Thierry Reding пишет:
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 05:21:30PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> >> 27.04.2020 14:00, Thierry Reding пишет:
> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:52:10PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> >>>> 27.04.2020 10:48, Thierry Reding пишет:
> >>>> ...
> >>>>>> Maybe but all these other problems appear to have existed for sometime
> >>>>>> now. We need to fix all, but for the moment we need to figure out what's
> >>>>>> best for v5.7.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To me it doesn't sound like we have a good handle on what exactly is
> >>>>> going on here and we're mostly just poking around.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And even if things weren't working quite properly before, it sounds to
> >>>>> me like this patch actually made things worse.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a plenty of time to work on the proper fix now. To me it sounds
> >>>> like you're giving up on fixing the root of the problem, sorry.
> >>>
> >>> We're at -rc3 now and I haven't seen any promising progress in the last
> >>> week. All the while suspend/resume is now broken on at least one board
> >>> and that may end up hiding any other issues that could creep in in the
> >>> meantime.
> >>>
> >>> Furthermore we seem to have a preexisting issue that may very well
> >>> interfere with this patch, so I think the cautious thing is to revert
> >>> for now and then fix the original issue first. We can always come back
> >>> to this once everything is back to normal.
> >>>
> >>> Also, people are now looking at backporting this to v5.6. Unless we
> >>> revert this from v5.7 it may get picked up for backports to other
> >>> kernels and then I have to notify stable kernel maintainers that they
> >>> shouldn't and they have to back things out again. That's going to cause
> >>> a lot of wasted time for a lot of people.
> >>>
> >>> So, sorry, I disagree. I don't think we have "plenty of time".
> >>
> >> There is about a month now before the 5.7 release. It's a bit too early
> >> to start the panic, IMO :)
> >
> > There's no panic. A patch got merged and it broken something, so we
> > revert it and try again. It's very much standard procedure.
> >
> >> Jon already proposed a reasonable simple solution: to keep PCIe
> >> regulators always-ON. In a longer run we may want to have I2C atomic
> >> transfers supported for a late suspend phase.
> >
> > That's not really a solution, though, is it? It's just papering over
> > an issue that this patch introduced or uncovered. I'm much more in
> > favour of fixing problems at the root rather than keep papering over
> > until we loose track of what the actual problems are.
>
> It's not "papering over an issue". The bug can't be fixed properly
> without introducing I2C atomic transfers support for a late suspend
> phase, I don't see any other solutions for now. Stable kernels do not
> support atomic transfers at all, that proper solution won't be backportable.
Hm... on a hunch I tried something and, lo and behold, it worked. I can
get Cardhu to properly suspend/resume on top of v5.7-rc3 with the
following sequence:
revert 9f42de8d4ec2 i2c: tegra: Fix suspending in active runtime PM state
apply http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linux-tegra/patch/20191213134417.222720-1-thierry.reding@gmail.com/
I also ran that through our test farm and I don't see any other issues.
At the time I was already skeptical about pm_runtime_force_suspend() and
pm_runtime_force_resume() and while I'm not fully certain why exactly it
doesn't work, the above on top of v5.7-rc3 seems like a good option.
I'll try to do some digging if I can find out why exactly force suspend
and resume doesn't work.
Thierry
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-24 19:12 [PATCH v2 0/2] NVIDIA Tegra I2C synchronization correction Dmitry Osipenko
2020-03-24 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] i2c: tegra: Better handle case where CPU0 is busy for a long time Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-15 16:31 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-04-20 19:53 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-20 22:11 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-21 0:32 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-21 9:49 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-21 12:39 ` Manikanta Maddireddy
2020-04-21 13:08 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-21 13:49 ` Manikanta Maddireddy
2020-04-21 13:25 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-21 14:40 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-21 15:08 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-21 19:42 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-22 13:40 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-22 13:59 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-22 14:07 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-23 10:56 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-23 16:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-24 7:10 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-24 14:45 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-24 15:19 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-27 7:48 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-27 8:44 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-04-27 9:07 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 10:35 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-04-27 10:50 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-27 15:32 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-27 16:02 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 10:49 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-27 9:52 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 10:38 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-04-27 13:15 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 14:19 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-27 15:31 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-05-02 14:40 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-05-02 14:43 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-05-04 15:42 ` Thierry Reding
2020-05-04 20:55 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 11:00 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-27 14:21 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 15:12 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-27 15:18 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-28 8:01 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-28 12:37 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-29 8:14 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2020-04-29 8:55 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-29 12:35 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-29 13:57 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-29 14:46 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-29 16:24 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-29 17:02 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-29 16:30 ` Thierry Reding
2020-04-29 16:54 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-29 17:34 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 12:46 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 14:13 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 14:45 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-27 15:38 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-28 8:02 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-28 23:12 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-21 15:18 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-21 15:34 ` Jon Hunter
2020-04-21 19:07 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-28 13:43 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-03-24 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] i2c: tegra: Synchronize DMA before termination Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-15 16:31 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-04-15 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] NVIDIA Tegra I2C synchronization correction Wolfram Sang
2020-04-15 14:14 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-04-15 16:23 ` Wolfram Sang
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