From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
Jarkko Nikula <jarkko.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@marvell.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Guodong Xu <guodong.xu@linaro.org>,
Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@linaro.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] PM / ACPI: Enable the runtime PM centric approach for system sleep
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:32:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2162861.FQgDXG4xnB@aspire.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpYpLqPiyfqp16JT8fA7xwhanAcfhdnYm6MgeXyq0QfNQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:42:11 AM Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On 21 June 2017 at 23:47, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> This change extends the interpretation of the ACPI's no_direct_complete
> >> flag to be used to enable the so called runtime PM centric approach, for
> >> devices being attached to the ACPI PM domain.
> >>
> >> The principle behind the runtime PM centric approach is to re-use the
> >> runtime PM callbacks to implement system sleep for drivers/subsystems.
> >> Moreover, using the runtime PM centric approach gives an optimized
> >> behaviour around avoiding to wake up a device from its low power state
> >> during system sleep, unless really needed.
> >>
> >> To deploy the runtime PM centric approach for a subsystem/driver, the
> >> following adaptations needs to be made.
> >>
> >> First, the runtime PM callbacks may be called when runtime PM has been
> >> disabled for the device. This serves as an indication for the callbacks to
> >> understand they are running in the system sleep sequence, instead of in the
> >> regular runtime PM path. In some cases, a callback needs to take different
> >> actions depending in what path it is being executed in, as is the case for
> >> the ACPI PM domain.
> >>
> >> In particular for the ACPI PM domain's ->runtime_suspend|resume()
> >> callbacks, when those finds runtime PM being disabled for the device, it
> >> instead executes the same operations as normally being run when
> >> ->suspend_late() and ->resume_early() callbacks are invoked during system
> >> sleep.
> >>
> >> Second, at the PM domain level, it is expected that the driver for the
> >> device makes use of pm_runtime_force_suspend|resume(), to re-use the
> >> runtime PM callbacks to put the device into low power state and to wake it
> >> up when needed during system sleep.
> >
> > What if it doesn't do that?
> >
> > Do all drivers of devices that may fall into the ACPI PM domain use
> > pm_runtime_force_suspend|resume()?
>
> No, no - the runtime PM centric path is optional by all ACPI
> devices/drivers. The default is still for the ACPI PM domain to try
> the direct_complete path.
>
> However if an ACPI device/driver (i2c designware in this case) likes
> to do that, they need to inform the ACPI PM domain about it. Then they
> call acpi_dev_disable_direct_complete() and makes use of
> pm_runtime_force_suspend|resume() to deal with system sleep.
>
> Does that makes sense?
Overall, yes, it does, but then it should be made clear that when you use
"no_direct_complete" (all what you are going to call that eventually), you
also must use pm_runtime_force_suspend|resume() as your sleep callbacks.
Otherwise things may not work correctly if my understanding is correct.
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-22 14:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-21 19:21 [PATCH 0/9] PM / ACPI / i2c: Fix system suspend and deploy runtime PM centric path for ACPI Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/9] i2c: designware: Fix system suspend Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 23:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 10:49 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-06-22 11:16 ` Jarkko Nikula
2017-06-27 7:55 ` Jarkko Nikula
2017-06-28 14:01 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-28 14:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-28 15:06 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-22 14:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 21:37 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-22 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-26 16:49 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-26 19:39 ` Grygorii Strashko
2017-06-26 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-27 7:33 ` Jarkko Nikula
2017-06-27 15:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-28 14:31 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-28 16:52 ` Grygorii Strashko
2017-09-08 3:23 ` [1/9] " Wangtao (Kevin, Kirin)
2017-09-08 8:29 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-09-12 9:44 ` Wangtao (Kevin, Kirin)
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 2/9] PM / ACPI: Restore acpi_subsys_complete() Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 3/9] PM / Sleep: Remove pm_complete_with_resume_check() Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] PM / ACPI: Split code validating need for runtime resume in ->prepare() Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 21:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 5/9] PM / ACPI: Split acpi_lpss_suspend_late|resume_early() Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] PM / ACPI: Provide option to disable direct_complete for ACPI devices Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 9:35 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-22 14:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 21:29 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-22 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 7/9] PM / ACPI: Enable the runtime PM centric approach for system sleep Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 9:42 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-22 14:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2017-06-22 21:14 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-22 21:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 8/9] PM / ACPI: Avoid runtime resuming device in acpi_subsys_suspend|freeze() Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH 9/9] i2c: designware: Deploy the runtime PM centric approach for system sleep Ulf Hansson
2017-06-21 22:39 ` [PATCH 0/9] PM / ACPI / i2c: Fix system suspend and deploy runtime PM centric path for ACPI John Stultz
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