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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	linus.walleij@stericsson.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, grant.likely@secretlab.ca,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/14] i2c: Add Device Tree support to the Nomadik I2C driver
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:00:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FDB07B9.5010303@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120615093231.GB3898@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>

On 15/06/12 10:32, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 07:57:32PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
>> On 14/06/12 19:36, Mark Brown wrote:
>
>>> You're not understanding Linus' point.  The compatible string isn't
>>> useful here because properties like the maximum clock rate of the bus
>>> depend on the board design, not the silicon.  The controller may be
>>> perfectly happy to run at a given rate but other devices on the bus or
>>> the electrical engineering of the PCB itself may restrict this further.
>
>> And you're not understanding mine. ;)
>
> I think we are (or at least I do)...
>
>> You can have multiple compatible strings for a single driver. Which
>> one you reference from the Device Tree will dictate which group of
>> settings are used, including variation of clock rates.
>
> I'm certainly well aware of that.  The problem is that the compatible
> strings should identify a particular IP or piece of silicon and be
> unchanging properties of that hardware - for example, working out how
> big a FIFO in a device is from the compatible information is totally
> sensible and reasonable.  Things like the I2C bus clock speed on the
> other hand depend not on the individual device but on how it's been
> integrated into the system so you'd end up saying things like
> "nomadik-i2c-100khz-bus" in the compatible string which isn't great.
>
> If there's something like variation in the maximum speed that can be
> supported by the different silicon the driver handles then working that
> out from compatible and using it as the default is sensible but that's
> not the same thing as providing customisation of the system bus
> frequency to the user and if there's only one of those two that's
> configurable it should be the system bus frequency.

All agreed. I think we're singing off the same hymn-sheet here. :)

I was just saying that it was possible to pick a selection of 
configurations from a compatible string alone. I also mentioned that on 
reflection it would be neater to specify the properties individually 
from Device Tree in case of small variations in configuration, 
preventing us from using compatible strings like the one you mentioned.

-- 
Lee Jones
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-15 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1339428307-3850-1-git-send-email-lee.jones@linaro.org>
2012-06-11 15:25 ` [PATCH 09/14] i2c: Add Device Tree support to the Nomadik I2C driver Lee Jones
2012-06-11 19:05   ` Wolfram Sang
2012-06-12  7:23     ` Lee Jones
     [not found]     ` <20120611190550.GK3887-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-12  8:52       ` Lee Jones
     [not found]         ` <4FD70357.9060905-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-12  8:57           ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1339428307-3850-10-git-send-email-lee.jones-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-11 20:37     ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]       ` <CACRpkdaMDbH4NkiHRLAfbJZ_j4QXbwg94bvaWsdYRPH+dSfc8Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-12  7:34         ` Lee Jones
     [not found]           ` <4FD6F0E8.5040606-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-13  5:40             ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]               ` <CACRpkdYxiT-0x4aetMxB2x8SkB+Mmy8rk8uSzgU_anemSayhMw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-13  7:01                 ` Lee Jones
2012-06-13  8:12                   ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                     ` <CACRpkdZC8E6izDpdnWy6DMjOdA6KsqTaPoaq9pErWoNW0Ewytw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-13 12:28                       ` Lee Jones
     [not found]                         ` <4FD88761.9050703-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-14 18:36                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                             ` <20120614183636.GB30185-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-14 18:46                               ` Mark Brown
2012-06-14 18:59                                 ` Lee Jones
2012-06-14 18:57                               ` Lee Jones
     [not found]                                 ` <4FDA341C.8010501-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-15  9:32                                   ` Mark Brown
2012-06-15 10:00                                     ` Lee Jones [this message]
2012-06-15 10:32                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                   ` <20120615103233.GA19046-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-15 11:43                                     ` Lee Jones
2012-06-13 16:07         ` [PATCH 1/3] " Lee Jones
     [not found]           ` <4FD8BAD2.50703-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-14 17:12             ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]               ` <CACRpkdZFi34nChnMEo6yik67zk9owZLk-6zcdP7mmOXyLz8uqQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-15  9:02                 ` Lee Jones
     [not found]                   ` <CAE2-_9rRYxjU9QQgtBv9ReMY5x+oRiJG1cDQahYHanjDrwVUYA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <CAE2-_9rRYxjU9QQgtBv9ReMY5x+oRiJG1cDQahYHanjDrwVUYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-15 11:50                       ` Fwd: " Srinidhi Kasagar
2012-06-15 12:45                         ` Lee Jones
     [not found]                           ` <4FDB2E57.4030904-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-15 13:05                             ` Srinidhi Kasagar
2012-06-15 13:18                               ` Lee Jones
     [not found]                                 ` <4FDB3642.5030804-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-15 13:37                                   ` Srinidhi Kasagar
2012-06-15 13:58                                     ` Lee Jones
2012-06-17 17:43                                 ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                                   ` <CACRpkdZ7ESKhokk8Z+6sC9Kq+jPztFNwzger0Db7nCD1fPnG1A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-18  7:18                                     ` Lee Jones
2012-06-18  7:58                                       ` Srinidhi Kasagar
2012-06-18  8:41                                         ` Lee Jones
2012-06-13 16:08         ` [PATCH 3/3] Documentation: Device Tree binding information for i2c-nomadik driver Lee Jones
     [not found]           ` <4FD8BAF8.10806-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-14 17:13             ` Linus Walleij
2012-06-13 16:08       ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: ux500: Add i2c configurations to the Device Tree for DB8500 based devices Lee Jones
     [not found]         ` <4FD8BAE4.4050606-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-14 17:13           ` Linus Walleij
2012-06-18 11:29         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]           ` <CACRpkda2pH1by2hajpP20CJgdg+mWFF=QaGbeNdY=c8iOVtLUQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-18 11:37             ` Lee Jones

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