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From: Shinya Kuribayashi <skuribay-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org
Cc: christian.ruppert-ux6zf3SgZrrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] i2c-designware: make *CNT values configurable
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:22:46 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52120E16.8010503@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130819113604.GN4898-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

On 8/19/13 8:36 PM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:15:12AM +0900, Shinya Kuribayashi wrote:
>>> Actually, the I2C specification clearly defines f_SCL;max (and thus
>>> implies t_SCL;min), both in the tables and the timing diagrams. Why can
>>> we ignore this constraint while having to meet all the others?
>>
>> If we meet t_r, t_f, t_HIGH, t_LOW (and t_HIGH in this DW case),
>> f_SCL;max will be met by itself.  And again, all I2C master and
>> slave devices in the bus don't care about f_SCL; what they do care
>> are t_f, t_r, t_HIGH, t_LOW, and so on.  That's why I'm saying
>> f_SCL is pointless and has no value for HCNT/LCNT calculations.
>
> One thing that comes to mind regarding the bus speed is that even if we
> have all the minimal timing requirements met we still prefer resulting bus
> speeds closer to 400kHz than 315.41kHz for the reasons that we get more
> data transferred that way, no?

That depends I2C slave devices in the bus in your target systems.
As long as your slave devices can detect START/STOP conditions and
recognize SDA/SCL transitions properly, that should be Ok (you can
use HCNT/LCNT settings for 400 kHz without having all the minimal
timing requirements met).

My comments above was a reply to Christian's snippet code and how to
treat f_SCL;mas constraints, and unrelated to your case in question.
I'm for having a way to override HCNT/LCNT values as said before, and
that should nicely work for you.

   Shinya

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-19 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-08 11:45 [PATCH 1/2] i2c-designware: make *CNT values configurable Mika Westerberg
     [not found] ` <1373283927-21677-1-git-send-email-mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-08 11:45   ` [PATCH 2/2] i2c-designware: configure *CNT values from ACPI Mika Westerberg
     [not found]     ` <1373283927-21677-2-git-send-email-mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-10 13:01       ` Mika Westerberg
2013-07-08 13:42   ` [PATCH 1/2] i2c-designware: make *CNT values configurable Christian Ruppert
     [not found]     ` <20130708134216.GB6402-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-09  8:44       ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]         ` <20130709084402.GF4898-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-09 16:19           ` Christian Ruppert
     [not found]             ` <20130709161927.GC30236-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-10 10:52               ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                 ` <20130710105215.GY4898-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-10 16:56                   ` Christian Ruppert
     [not found]                     ` <20130710165634.GA30693-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-11  7:36                       ` Mika Westerberg
2013-07-11 10:13                         ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                           ` <20130711101330.GP4898-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-12  7:56                             ` Shinya Kuribayashi
     [not found]                               ` <51DFB6C1.4040001-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-12  8:51                                 ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                   ` <20130712085140.GY4898-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-13  5:36                                     ` Shinya Kuribayashi
     [not found]                                       ` <51E0E76B.1040304-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-16 11:16                                         ` Christian Ruppert
     [not found]                                           ` <20130716111616.GA25835-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17 14:39                                             ` Shinya Kuribayashi
     [not found]                                               ` <51E6ACBE.7000509-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-22 13:17                                                 ` Christian Ruppert
     [not found]                                                   ` <20130722131706.GA24081-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-24 14:31                                                     ` Shinya Kuribayashi
     [not found]                                                       ` <51EFE550.1000507-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05  9:31                                                         ` Christian Ruppert
     [not found]                                                           ` <20130805093126.GE20936-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 10:02                                                             ` Wolfram Sang
2013-08-12  7:48                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20130812074800.GA23792-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-12 11:09                                                                   ` Wolfram Sang
2013-08-16  2:15                                                             ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2013-08-19 11:36                                                               ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20130819113604.GN4898-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-19 12:22                                                                   ` Shinya Kuribayashi [this message]
2013-08-21 14:39                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20130821143915.GA3046-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-24  4:58                                                                   ` Shinya Kuribayashi
     [not found]                                                                     ` <52183D87.40703-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-28 15:34                                                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-08 15:00                                                                         ` [PATCH 1/2] i2c designware make SCL and SDA falling time configurable Romain Baeriswyl
2013-10-09  7:55                                                                           ` Mika Westerberg
2013-10-10  0:54                                                                             ` Ryan Mallon
     [not found]                                                                               ` <5255FAB5.7080803-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-13 11:36                                                                                 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <525A85D6.3090608-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 19:43                                                                                     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-01-20 16:43                                                                                       ` [PATCH v2 " Romain Baeriswyl
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <1390236223-22584-1-git-send-email-romainba-ux6zf3SgZrrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-09  8:20                                                                                           ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20130828153429.GB7066-7oYq3qWSd+k@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08 15:00                                                                           ` [PATCH 2/2] i2c designware add support of I2C standard mode Romain Baeriswyl
2013-10-09  7:56                                                                             ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20131009075632.GR3521-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-13 11:46                                                                                 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2014-01-16 19:33                                                                             ` Wolfram Sang
2014-01-20 16:45                                                                               ` [PATCH v2 " Romain Baeriswyl
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <1390236338-21407-1-git-send-email-romainba-ux6zf3SgZrrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-09  8:07                                                                                   ` Wolfram Sang
2013-08-19  6:39                                             ` [PATCH 1/2] i2c-designware: make *CNT values configurable Mika Westerberg

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