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From: zhangfei <zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: zhangfei gao
	<zhangfei.gao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Walleij
	<linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Baruch Siach <baruch-NswTu9S1W3P6gbPvEgmw2w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Haojian Zhuang
	<haojian.zhuang-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: getting rid of subsys_initcall usage?
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:58:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5254AA51.706@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131008205304.GA29121@katana>



On 10/09/2013 04:53 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 01:27:13AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>> * zhangfei gao <zhangfei.gao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> [130829 23:36]:
>>> What about concerns from Wolfram:
>>> " Other people might be
>>> depending on subsys_initcall to get I2C active before they want to
>>> activate, say, PMICs. So, I fear regressions, since deferred probing
>>> might not be available in the needed places to avoid these regressions."
>>
>> There should not be any reason to get a PMIC activated
>> early on. The system should be booting already at that point,
>> and the PMIC related init can be done later on.
>
> Okay, here is a more concrete example:
>
> Consider the amplifier driver 'sound/soc/codecs/max9768.c'. Back then, unaware
> of deferred probing, I wrote the following code to get the GPIOs (which are
> optional):
>
> 	err = gpio_request_one(pdata->mute_gpio, GPIOF_INIT_HIGH, "MAX9768 Mute");
> 	max9768->mute_gpio = err ?: pdata->mute_gpio;
>
> And later in the process:
>
>          if (gpio_is_valid(max9768->mute_gpio)) {
>                  ret = snd_soc_add_codec_controls(codec, max9768_mute,
>                                  ARRAY_SIZE(max9768_mute));
>                  if (ret)
>                          return ret;
>          }
>
> So, the mute control will only be added if the gpio_request succeeded. On that
> particular board, the mute GPIO was wired to an I2C GPIO controller. If I now
> change the I2C (or GPIO) driver from subsys_initcall to module_init, then the
> gpio_request in the amplifier driver could hit -EPROBE_DEFER and the mute
> control will then disappear.

However, this may requires I2C, GPIO, pinctrl all use subsys_initcall.
-EPROBE_DEFER still be returned, if pinctrl happen to use 
module_platform_driver, which is most case in drivers/pinctrl/.

Yes, the driver can be fixed easily, yet I fear a
> number of regressions like this. Instead of people digging into why things
> disappear after a kernel update, I wonder if there is a way to guide users if
> this happens. I didn't have time for that, though, sadly. Still, it makes me
> wonder how easily we could shift from subsys_initcall to module_init, although
> I'd really love to get away from subsys_initcall in device drivers.
>

Thanks for clarify the concern.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09  0:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20  8:32 [PATCH RESEND] i2c: designware: use module_platform_driver Zhangfei Gao
     [not found] ` <1376987548-12366-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-28  9:57   ` getting rid of subsys_initcall usage? (was: Re: [PATCH RESEND] i2c: designware: use module_platform_driver) Wolfram Sang
2013-08-29  8:58     ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]       ` <CACRpkdb1p1=3a0PM+r2ZrMN+ECv5BAZFdv2omDK5npaer4ddcw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-29 10:55         ` zhangfei gao
     [not found]           ` <CAMj5BkhQkwb+T9VepN7UrWNRSgtv=Dw-Sa-gv0orOANo55iqNw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-29 17:11             ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-30  5:48             ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]               ` <20130830054858.GR7656-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-30  6:29                 ` zhangfei gao
     [not found]                   ` <CAMj5BkiDExikXi3JcVhO7RN8_82eGYhq3i6oPf5Wbipy=N+iHQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-30  8:27                     ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]                       ` <20130830082712.GT7656-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-12  1:12                         ` zhangfei gao
     [not found]                           ` <CAMj5BkgqBCh0316NmoP_XMXvJTVQxxvUvs63wZfS_TvNLdqAfg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  2:46                             ` zhangfei gao
     [not found]                               ` <CAMj5Bki+BS=3sWCRdrDOEKpt6Bj+4vm0zKCJ4YBAudcqbAZySw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  5:26                                 ` Wolfram Sang
2013-10-08 20:53                         ` Wolfram Sang
2013-10-08 22:10                           ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]                             ` <20131008221056.GW8313-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 23:34                               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-10-18  7:32                               ` Wolfram Sang
2013-10-09  0:58                           ` zhangfei [this message]
2013-08-30  1:51     ` getting rid of subsys_initcall usage? zhangfei

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