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From: Ray Jui <rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Wolfram Sang" <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:31:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54BD77AD.3080209@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150119194420.GG26493-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>



On 1/19/2015 11:44 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> To see why atomic_t is pure obfuscation:
> 
> typedef struct {
>         int counter;
> } atomic_t;
> 
> So, counter is a plain int.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:23:47AM -0800, Ray Jui wrote:
>> +static irqreturn_t bcm_iproc_i2c_isr(int irq, void *data)
>> +{
>> +	struct bcm_iproc_i2c_dev *iproc_i2c = data;
>> +	u32 status = readl(iproc_i2c->base + IS_OFFSET);
>> +
>> +	status &= ISR_MASK;
>> +
>> +	if (!status)
>> +		return IRQ_NONE;
>> +
>> +	writel(status, iproc_i2c->base + IS_OFFSET);
>> +	atomic_set(&iproc_i2c->xfer_is_done, 1);
> 
> #define atomic_set(v,i) (((v)->counter) = (i))
> 
> So, this is the same as doing:
> 
> 	iproc_i2c->xfer_is_done.counter = 1;
> 
> which is merely setting the 'int' to 1.
> 
>> +	time_left = wait_for_completion_timeout(&iproc_i2c->done, time_left);
>> +
>> +	/* disable all interrupts */
>> +	writel(0, iproc_i2c->base + IE_OFFSET);
>> +
>> +	if (!time_left && !atomic_read(&iproc_i2c->xfer_is_done)) {
> 
> #define atomic_read(v)  ACCESS_ONCE((v)->counter)
> 
> This is practically the same as:
> 
> 	if (!time_left && !iproc_i2c->xfer_is_done.counter) {
> 
> except that this access will be guaranteed to happen just once at this
> location (see ACCESS_ONCE() in include/linux/compiler.h).
> 
> However, complete()..wait_for_completion() ensures that there are
> barriers in the way: complete takes a spinlock on the waiter, so the
> write to iproc_i2c->xfer_is_done.counter will be visible by the time
> wait_for_completion() returns, and wait_for_completion() also does.
> The same spinlock is also manipulated by wait_for_completion(), which
> means there's barriers there as well, so it can't cache the value of
> "counter" across that call.
> 
> So, the "volatile" access guaranteed by ACCESS_ONCE() isn't even
> needed here.
> 
> (It would be needed if you were spinning in a loop, calling no other
> functions - but then you're supposed to use cpu_relax() in that
> circumstance, which has a compiler barrier in it, which ensures that
> it will re-read such a variable each time.)
> 
I really learned a good lesson here. Thanks for the thorough explanation!
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     [not found] <Ray Jui <rjui@broadcom.com>
     [not found] ` <Ray Jui <rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  0:54   ` [PATCH 0/4] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
2014-12-10  0:54     ` [PATCH 1/4] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
2014-12-10  1:27       ` Varka Bhadram
     [not found]         ` <5487A16C.5000707-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  1:35           ` Ray Jui
     [not found]             ` <CAEUmHyb_wu1kVj-G5LQj8Q_A1Tid1gSGbU=cGeBf4EXZgXChbg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAEUmHyb_wu1kVj-G5LQj8Q_A1Tid1gSGbU=cGeBf4EXZgXChbg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  3:27                 ` Ray Jui
2014-12-10  0:54     ` [PATCH 2/4] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
2014-12-10  1:33       ` Varka Bhadram
     [not found]         ` <5487A2D6.8070901-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  1:41           ` Ray Jui
     [not found]             ` <CAEUmHyZ+VqjzL4LkQozGJtnictPNXHYWM2qMKvD=LmfQdcT8iQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAEUmHyZ86r=7KzJzfE9_upv45vN7geW9woqMkaGaBPwfp3xbMQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CAEUmHyZ86r=7KzJzfE9_upv45vN7geW9woqMkaGaBPwfp3xbMQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  3:31                   ` Ray Jui
2014-12-10  0:54     ` [PATCH 3/4] ARM: mach-bcm: Enable I2C support for iProc Ray Jui
2014-12-10  0:54     ` [PATCH 4/4] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
2014-12-10  2:18   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
2014-12-10  2:18     ` [PATCH v2 1/4] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
2014-12-10  2:18     ` [PATCH v2 2/4] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
     [not found]     ` <1418177893-22094-1-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  2:18       ` [PATCH v2 3/4] ARM: mach-bcm: Enable I2C support for iProc Ray Jui
     [not found]         ` <1418177893-22094-4-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  2:20           ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]             ` <5487ADE5.4070705-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  2:24               ` Ray Jui
     [not found]                 ` <5487AEF0.5010404-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  3:20                   ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                     ` <5487BBE0.4000701-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  3:58                       ` Ray Jui
2014-12-10  2:18     ` [PATCH v2 4/4] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
2014-12-10  3:57   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
2014-12-10  3:57     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
2014-12-10  3:57     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
     [not found]       ` <1418183832-24793-3-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-13 22:50         ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]           ` <20150113225012.GK22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-14  2:14             ` Ray Jui
2015-01-14  7:51               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-01-14 20:05                 ` Ray Jui
     [not found]               ` <54B5D0F9.8030902-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-15 11:59                 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-01-16 22:51                   ` Ray Jui
2014-12-10  3:57     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
     [not found]     ` <548F577E.7020207@broadcom.com>
     [not found]       ` <548F577E.7020207-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 21:55         ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Wolfram Sang
2014-12-16  0:12           ` Ray Jui
2015-01-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v4 " Ray Jui
2015-01-14 22:23     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
     [not found]     ` <1421274213-3544-1-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-14 22:23       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
     [not found]         ` <1421274213-3544-3-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-15  8:41           ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]             ` <20150115084119.GN22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-15 12:07               ` Wolfram Sang
2015-01-15 16:32                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-01-16 22:52                 ` Ray Jui
2015-01-16 22:09               ` Ray Jui
     [not found]                 ` <54B98C18.4080807-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 16:01                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                     ` <20150117160113.GA22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 19:58                       ` Ray Jui
     [not found]                         ` <54BABEE9.8070801-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 20:18                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                             ` <20150117201849.GC22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 20:51                               ` Ray Jui
     [not found]                                 ` <54BACB66.6040909-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 21:10                                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                                     ` <20150117211017.GD22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 21:26                                       ` Ray Jui
     [not found]                                         ` <54BAD391.9080909-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 22:40                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                             ` <20150117224021.GA26493-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18  0:30                                               ` Ray Jui
2015-01-19 19:28                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                   ` <20150119192805.GF26493-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-19 21:25                                                     ` Ray Jui
2015-01-14 22:23     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
     [not found]       ` <1421274213-3544-4-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-15  8:44         ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]           ` <20150115084456.GO22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-16 19:24             ` Ray Jui
     [not found]               ` <54B96559.1010007-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-16 19:48                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                   ` <20150116194831.GV22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-16 23:18                     ` Ray Jui
2015-01-16 23:42   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
     [not found]     ` <1421451737-7107-1-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-16 23:42       ` [PATCH v5 1/3] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
2015-01-16 23:42       ` [PATCH v5 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
     [not found]         ` <1421451737-7107-3-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18  9:14           ` Arend van Spriel
     [not found]             ` <54BB795C.6040402-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18  9:47               ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                 ` <20150118094741.GE22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18 11:06                   ` Wolfram Sang
2015-01-18 11:17                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                       ` <20150118111759.GG22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18 11:42                         ` Wolfram Sang
2015-01-18 11:46                       ` Arend van Spriel
     [not found]                         ` <54BB9D2B.20408-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18 11:56                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                             ` <20150118115650.GH22880-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18 12:13                               ` Arend van Spriel
     [not found]                                 ` <54BBA36A.10608-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-19 19:15                                   ` Ray Jui
2015-01-16 23:42     ` [PATCH v5 3/3] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
2015-01-19 19:23   ` [PATCH v6 0/3] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
2015-01-19 19:23     ` [PATCH v6 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
     [not found]       ` <1421695428-19102-3-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-19 19:44         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20150119194420.GG26493-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-19 21:31             ` Ray Jui [this message]
     [not found]     ` <1421695428-19102-1-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-19 19:23       ` [PATCH v6 1/3] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
2015-01-19 19:23       ` [PATCH v6 3/3] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
2015-01-19 21:51   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
2015-01-19 21:51     ` [PATCH v7 1/3] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
2015-01-19 21:51     ` [PATCH v7 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
2015-02-06 22:31       ` [v7,2/3] " Kevin Cernekee
     [not found]         ` <20150206223149.GB345-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-06 22:48           ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]             ` <CAE_wzQ-POweLLmTyHoMvs_NESjW5UmPxh2ZQCaW4-W74MsrHag-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-06 23:01               ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-02-07  0:54           ` Ray Jui
2015-01-19 21:51     ` [PATCH v7 3/3] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
2015-02-07  1:28   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
2015-02-07  1:28     ` [PATCH v8 1/3] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
2015-02-07  1:28     ` [PATCH v8 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
     [not found]       ` <1423272507-18459-3-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-07 17:50         ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-08  5:08           ` Ray Jui
2015-02-08 11:03             ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-08 18:10               ` Ray Jui
     [not found]                 ` <54D7A694.4000903-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-09 10:03                   ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-07  1:28     ` [PATCH v8 3/3] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
2015-02-08  5:25   ` [PATCH v9 0/3] Add I2C support to Broadcom iProc Ray Jui
2015-02-08  5:25     ` [PATCH v9 1/3] i2c: iProc: define Broadcom iProc I2C binding Ray Jui
     [not found]       ` <1423373126-30024-2-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-09 12:09         ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <1423373126-30024-1-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-08  5:25       ` [PATCH v9 2/3] i2c: iproc: Add Broadcom iProc I2C Driver Ray Jui
     [not found]         ` <1423373126-30024-3-git-send-email-rjui-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-08 16:29           ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-08 17:56             ` Ray Jui
2015-02-09 12:10           ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-10  5:23             ` Ray Jui
     [not found]               ` <54D995DA.7040201-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10  8:33                 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-10 17:10                   ` Ray Jui
2015-02-08  5:25       ` [PATCH v9 3/3] ARM: dts: add I2C device nodes for Broadcom Cygnus Ray Jui
2015-02-09 12:11         ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-10  5:24           ` Ray Jui
     [not found]             ` <54D99606.9070309-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10  5:34               ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                 ` <54D99848.2080205-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10  5:36                   ` Ray Jui

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