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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Tyrone Ting <warp5tw@gmail.com>
Cc: avifishman70@gmail.com, tmaimon77@gmail.com,
	tali.perry1@gmail.com, venture@google.com, yuenn@google.com,
	benjaminfair@google.com, andi.shyti@kernel.org, wsa@kernel.org,
	rand.sec96@gmail.com, wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com,
	tali.perry@nuvoton.com, Avi.Fishman@nuvoton.com,
	tomer.maimon@nuvoton.com, KWLIU@nuvoton.com, JJLIU0@nuvoton.com,
	kfting@nuvoton.com, openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/6] i2c: npcm: use i2c frequency table
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:23:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zvv3ws1_jUMVnAAJ@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241001062855.6928-6-kfting@nuvoton.com>

On Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 02:28:54PM +0800, Tyrone Ting wrote:
> From: Tyrone Ting <kfting@nuvoton.com>
> 
> Modify i2c frequency from table parameters
> for NPCM i2c modules.

This two lines have a too small wrapping limit.

> Supported frequencies are:
> 
> 1. 100KHz
> 2. 400KHz
> 3. 1MHz
> 
> The original equations were tested on a variety of chips and base clocks.
> Since we added devices that use higher frequencies of the module we
> saw that there is a mismatch between the equation and the actual
> results on the bus itself, measured on scope.
> 
> Meanwhile, the equations were not accurate to begin with.
> They are an approximation of the ideal value. The ideal value is
> calculated per frequency of the core module.
> 
> So instead of using the equations we did an optimization per module
> frequency, verified on a device.
> 
> Most of the work was focused on the rise time of the SCL and SDA,
> which depends on external load of the bus and PU.
> 
> Different PCB designs, or specifically to this case: the number
> and type of targets on the bus, impact the required values for
> the timing registers.
> 
> Users can recalculate the numbers for each bus and get an even better
> optimization, but our users chose not to.
> 
> We manually picked values per frequency that match the entire valid
> range of targets (from 1 to max number). Then we check against the
> AMR described in SMB spec and make sure that none of the values
> is exceeding.
> 
> This process was led by the chip architect and included a lot of testing.

Personally I consider table approach is not so flexible and it is definitely
does not scale (in the result — hard to maintain for all customers), but if
it's hard to calculate all necessary data and there are other pros of it,
I'm fine.

TL;DR: I don't like this patch, but I don't want to stop you, hence no tags
from me.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-01 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-01  6:28 [PATCH v5 0/6] i2c: npcm: read/write operation, checkpatch Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] i2c: npcm: correct the read/write operation procedure Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] i2c: npcm: use a software flag to indicate a BER condition Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] i2c: npcm: Modify timeout evaluation mechanism Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01 13:14   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-09  5:49     ` Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] i2c: npcm: Modify the client address assignment Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01 13:17   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-04  1:49     ` Tyrone Ting
2024-10-04  2:29       ` Tyrone Ting
2024-10-08  1:41         ` Tyrone Ting
2024-10-08 16:21         ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-09  5:48           ` Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] i2c: npcm: use i2c frequency table Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01 13:23   ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2024-10-04  1:51     ` Tyrone Ting
2024-10-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] i2c: npcm: Enable slave in eob interrupt Tyrone Ting
2024-10-02  8:34 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] i2c: npcm: read/write operation, checkpatch Andi Shyti
2024-10-04  1:44   ` Tyrone Ting

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