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From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: "Pathak, Asutosh" <asutosh.pathak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: samagazaryan@google.com, Frank.Li@nxp.com,
	meaganlloyd@linux.microsoft.com, linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] i3c: add i3cdev module to expose i3c dev in /dev
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 22:03:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202611132103434b1803e4@mail.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <298e818d-90b5-4231-bbc6-ef840c0691ca@linux.intel.com>

On 13/11/2026 10:11:36-0800, Pathak, Asutosh wrote:
> Hi Sam,
> 
> Alexandre pointed me at this series. I'm working on a driver for the USB-I3C
> device class (USB class 0x3C) - a USB device that acts as an I3C controller,
> with a host-side tool (OpenIPC) that drives the bus from userspace. The master
> part registers normally, so its targets would show up as i3cdev nodes and we'd
> rather use I3C_IOC_XFER than carry our own ioctls. So +1 on the direction.
> 
> A few things we need that the current UAPI doesn't cover yet - wanted to raise
> them now rather than after it lands:
> 
> 1. IBIs to userspace. Our main use case is reacting to target interrupts, but
>    i3cdev is transfer-only today. We'd need a way to get IBIs (and ideally
>    hot-join) delivered to the fd - poll()/read() of an event, or similar.
>    This is the big one for us.
> 
> 2. Larger transfers. len/actual_len are u16 and I3C_IOC_XFER caps the count.
>    Our bulk flows go past 64K, so we'd want either a larger width or a
>    documented way to split without dropping the bus lock mid-sequence.
> 

Hum, seeing 1 and 2 now, shouldn't you rather have an actual kernel
driver to handle the devices present on the i3c bus? What are those
devices?

> 3. Explicit opt-in over auto-attach. For bring-up/validation we don't want a
>    node appearing just because a driver got unbound - Meagan's driver_override
>    approach fits us better, and it also answers Andy's HW-damage concern.
> 
> 4. CCCs from userspace. The union { rnw; cmd; } looks like it's meant for this -
>    just confirming direct/broadcast CCCs are in scope, since our tooling needs
>    them.
> 

Which CCCs do you need?


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  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-13 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-13 18:11 [PATCH v5 0/5] i3c: add i3cdev module to expose i3c dev in /dev Pathak, Asutosh
2026-11-13 21:03 ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-09-21 23:05 Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-25  9:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-25 10:57   ` Wolfram Sang
2026-10-10  4:05     ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-10-13 14:15       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-18 20:28         ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-10-19  9:45           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-19  9:47             ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-20 21:20               ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-10-21  9:57                 ` Alexandre Belloni
2026-10-21 13:03                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-22 20:23                     ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-10-26 10:55                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-09  6:11                         ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-11-09 21:49                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-11  5:20                             ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-10-23  0:17                   ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-11-12  9:41                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2026-10-21 13:00                 ` Andy Shevchenko

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