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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@hp.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Yu, Luming" <luming.yu@intel.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
	acpi-devel <acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"Keshavamurthy, Anil S" <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	LHNS list <lhns-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux IA64 <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:10:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1095790252.24751.41.camel@tdi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040921172546.GA7077@thunk.org>

On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 13:25 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:02:18PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > But, some AML methods are risky to be called directly from user space,
> > > Not only because the side effect of its execution, but also because
> > > it could trigger potential AML method bug or interpreter bug, or even
> > > architectural defect.  All of these headache is due to the AML method
> > >  is NOT intended for being used by userspace program.
> > 
> >    I've made an attempt to hide the most obvious dangerous methods, but
> > undoubtedly, there will be some.  Why are we any more likely to hit an
> > AML method bug, interpreter bug or architectural bug by having a
> > userspace interface?  
> 
> As long as the userspace interfaces are only available to the root
> filesystem, I'm not sure it's worth it to hide any of the methods.
> It's added complexity, and in any case, root can do untold amounts of
> damage by writing to /dev/mem, trying to upload firmware to IDE
> drives, etc., etc., etc.

   Yes, very true.  I think the difference is that in my current
implementation, objects are evaluated on read.  This makes it terribly
easy to do the wrong thing "Hmm, I wonder what that file does... oops".
Evaluating on write would set the bar a little higher, but still has
some of the same issues.  In theory, I definitely agree, the interface
shouldn't need to hide anything.  (I'm sure there are ACPI firmware
folks frightened by that idea)  Thanks,

	Alex

-- 
Alex Williamson                             HP Linux & Open Source Lab


  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-21 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-20 16:25 PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[0/6] Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:29 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[0/6]-Core ACPI enhancement support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:34 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[1/6]-ACPI core " Keshavamurthy Anil S
     [not found]   ` <200409201326.44946.dtor_core@ameritech.net>
2004-09-20 19:01     ` [ACPI] " Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 20:26       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2004-09-20 20:44         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:22           ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:35 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 18:33   ` [ACPI] " Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-20 19:24     ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 23:12       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21  0:52         ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface Alex Williamson
2004-09-21  1:20           ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21  1:25             ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21  1:41             ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface Alex Williamson
2004-09-21  5:34               ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21  1:38         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21  5:51           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21 21:51             ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21 22:23               ` [Lhns-devel] " Russ Anderson
2004-09-22  3:10               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-24 23:28         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27  6:12           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-27 16:53             ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27 18:09               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21  2:30     ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interfacesupport Yu, Luming
2004-09-21  3:02       ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject Alex Williamson
2004-09-21 17:25         ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interfacesupport Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-21 18:10           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2004-09-22  4:17   ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 16:59     ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support Keshavamurthy Anil S
     [not found] ` <20040920092520.A14208-39QZ/XbsZ5/mO6KZMuUCQVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2004-09-20 16:38   ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[3/6]-Mapping lsapic to cpu Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22  2:10     ` [ACPI] " Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23  6:55       ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22 13:15     ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 13:23       ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 14:52       ` Alex Williamson
2004-09-22 17:10         ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 17:54           ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:36           ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27 11:47             ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 12:50             ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 20:44               ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:41   ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[4/6]-Dynamic cpu register/unregister support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22  8:34     ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[4/6]-Dynamic cpu Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 17:10       ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[4/6]-Dynamic cpu register/unregister support Keshavamurthy Anil S
     [not found]       ` <20040922173400.4e717946.tokunaga.keiich-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2004-09-24 23:40         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:43   ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[5/6]-ACPI processor driver extension Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22  9:57     ` [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[5/6]-ACPI processor driver Keiichiro Tokunaga
     [not found]     ` <20040920094352.G14208-39QZ/XbsZ5/mO6KZMuUCQVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2004-09-24 23:48       ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[5/6]-ACPI processor driver extension Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:47   ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[6/6]-ACPI Container driver Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-23 16:23     ` [PATCH][0/4] NUMA node handling support for ACPI container driver Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:31       ` [PATCH][1/4] Add unregister_node() to drivers/base/node.c Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:43         ` [Lhns-devel] [PATCH][1/4] Add unregister_node() to Dave Hansen
2004-09-24  3:12           ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 18:52         ` [PATCH][1/4] Add unregister_node() to drivers/base/node.c Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-28 10:19           ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:32       ` [PATCH][2/4] Add arch_register_node() for ia64 Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:32       ` [PATCH][3/4] Add hotplug support to drivers/acpi/numa.c Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 12:58         ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 20:06         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-29  6:26           ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:36       ` [PATCH][4/4] Add NUMA node handling to the container driver Keiichiro Tokunaga
     [not found]         ` <20040924013642.00003b08.tokunaga.keiich-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2004-09-23 22:09           ` Mika Penttilä
2004-09-24  4:44             ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:38       ` [PATCH][0/4] NUMA node handling support for ACPI " Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:51     ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[6/6]-ACPI Container driver Keshavamurthy Anil S

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