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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: raybry@sgi.com, lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hugetlbpages in very large memory machines.......
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:45:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040313184547.6e127b51.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040313034840.GF4638@wotan.suse.de>

Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > We've looked at allocating and zeroing hugetlbpages at fault time, which 
>  > would at least allow multiple processors to be thrown at the problem.  
>  > Question is, has anyone else been working on
>  > this problem and might they have prototype code they could share with us?
> 
>  Yes. I ran into exactly this problem with NUMA API too. 
>  mbind() runs after mmap, but it cannot work anymore when
>  the pages are already allocated.
> 
>  I fixed it on x86-64/i386 by allocating the pages lazily.
>  Doing it for IA64 has been on the todo list too.
> 
>  i386/x86-64 Code as an example attached.
> 
>  One drawback is that the out of memory handling is lot less nicer
>  than it was before - when you run out of hugepages you get SIGBUS
>  now instead of a ENOMEM from mmap. Maybe some prereservation would
>  make sense, but that would be somewhat harder. Alternatively
>  fall back to smaller pages if possible (I was told it isn't easily
>  possible on IA64)

Demand-paging the hugepages is a decent feature to have, and ISTR resisting
it before for this reason.

Even though it's early in the 2.6 series I'd be a bit worried about
breaking existing hugetlb users in this way.  Yes, the pages are
preallocated so it is unlikely that a working setup is suddenly going to
break.  Unless someone is using the return value from mmap to find out how
many pages they can get.

So ho-hum.  I think it needs to be back-compatible.  Could we add
MAP_NO_PREFAULT?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-14  2:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-13  3:44 Hugetlbpages in very large memory machines Ray Bryant
2004-03-13  3:45 ` Ray Bryant
2004-03-13  3:48 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-13  5:49   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-13 16:10     ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2004-03-14  0:05       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-14  5:22         ` Peter Chubb
2004-03-15 23:31       ` Seth, Rohit
2004-03-14  2:45   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-03-14  4:06     ` Anton Blanchard
2004-03-17 19:05       ` [Lse-tech] Re: Hugetlbpages in very large memory Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-18 20:25         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 21:22           ` Stephen Smalley
2004-03-18 22:21             ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-23 17:30         ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-24 17:38           ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-14  8:38     ` [Lse-tech] Re: Hugetlbpages in very large memory machines Ray Bryant
2004-03-14  8:48       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-14  8:57       ` [Lse-tech] Re: Hugetlbpages in very large memory Andrew Morton
2004-03-14  9:02         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14  9:07         ` [Lse-tech] Re: Hugetlbpages in very large memory machines William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-15  6:45         ` Ray Bryant
2004-03-15 23:54           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-13  3:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-13  4:56 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-16  0:30   ` Nobuhiko Yoshida
2004-03-16  1:54     ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16  2:32       ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-16  3:20         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-16  3:15       ` Nobuhiko Yoshida
2004-04-01  9:10         ` Nobuhiko Yoshida

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