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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] SGI Altix cross partition functionality (1st revision)
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:55:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040904175516.A16490@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040616163514.GB27891@sgi.com>

On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:35:11AM -0500, Russ Anderson wrote:
> Perhaps I'm missing what you mean by "complexity".  I understand that a reasonable
> way to modify a mono-CPU kernel to run on a dual-CPU system is to add a big
> kernel lock.  And that as the number of CPUs increase, the locks need to be
> finer grain to avoid excessive lock contention.  And that identifying and
> breaking up the hot locks is a part of that process.  Cray went through
> that process with COS, unicos, SGI with Irix, and now the community
> with Linux.
> 
> What Dean is doing, and what the Cray and SGI people have learned over
> the last couple decades of hard work, is that it is simpler and less complex 
> to design in fine grain locks to avoid scaling problems.  We know that CPUs 
> will get faster, the number of CPUs will increase, as will the number of nodes 
> and amount of memory.  And as they increase, we know that big locks will get 
> hot and need to broken up.  So that is why you will find people that
> believe that it is simpler and less complex to design in fine grain locks,
> to avoid having to track down and fix scaling bugs.  

Have you not looked at the code or are you publically trying to make a fool
of yourself?

The lock is taken during xfc_connect/disconnect which happen exactly at
ifconfig up/down time.  Please explain me why ifconfig scalability matters
to SGI.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-04 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-16 16:35 [PATCH 2/4] SGI Altix cross partition functionality Dean Nelson
2004-06-16 17:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-16 20:22 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-29 18:36 ` Dean Nelson
2004-08-31 19:22 ` [PATCH 2/4] SGI Altix cross partition functionality (1st revision) Dean Nelson
2004-09-01 10:19 ` Robin Holt
2004-09-04 11:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 16:35 ` Russ Anderson
2004-09-04 16:55 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2004-09-04 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-05 11:45 ` Robin Holt
2004-12-20 18:45 ` Dean Nelson
2004-12-21 12:20 ` Dean Nelson
2005-01-05 11:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-05 11:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-24 18:00 [PATCH 0/4] SGI Altix cross partition functionality (1st Dean Nelson
2004-08-24 18:23 ` [PATCH 2/4] SGI Altix cross partition functionality (1st revision) Dean Nelson
2004-08-24 19:17   ` Christoph Hellwig

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