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From: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fix per-CPU MCA mess and make UP kernels work again
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:24:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050204162422.GD20796@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16887.1203.470842.161249@napali.hpl.hp.com>

On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 02:00:15PM +1100, Keith Owens wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:09:57 -0600, 
> Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 05:48:26PM -0600, Russ Anderson wrote:
> >> According to the SAL Spec, MCAs are supposed to be handled
> >> one at a time.  
> >
> >It has been a long time since I looked, but I thought the
> >spec allowed either implemention, ie. serialize OR all-at-once.
> >
> >Maybe I'm remembering the error handling guide but I know
> >I have seen this somewhere.....
> 
> It is ambiguous.  Extracts from SAL spec.
> 
> 4.1.1 says only one processor gets OS_MCA.
> 
>   When multiple processors experience machine checks simultaneously,
>   SAL selects a "monarch" machine check processor to accumulate all the
>   error records at the platform level and continue with the machine
>   check processing. "Monarch" status is relevant only for the current
>   MCA error event.
> 
> 4.7.2 (5) also says only one processor.
> 
>   5. SAL selects a monarch for handling the error. All slaves
>      processors in SAL_MC_RENDEZ check in their status with the SAL on
>      the monarch.
> 
> But the last sentence of 4.7.2 (8) refers to multiple processors in OS
> MCA.
> 
>   8. SAL finishes the MCA handling on all the processors that are in
>      MCA and waits for all the processors in MCA to synchronize before
>      branching to OS MCA for further processing.  Note that the
>      hand-off to OS MCA from SAL MCA occurs simultaneously on all
>      processors executing in SAL MCA handler.
> 
> 4.7.2 (9) lets the OS choose the monarch, which implies that more than
> one cpu can be in OS MCA handler.
> 
>   9. OS_MCA may choose a monarch processor to continue with error
>      handling. After OS_MCA completes the error handling, the monarch
>      processor wakes up all the slaves through a wake-up message as
>      shown by (9) in Figure 4-4
> 
> The end of 4.7.3 also implies that OS MCA handler can be running on
> multiple cpus. Note 'on all the processors'.
> 
>   When multiple processors experience machine checks simultaneously,
>   SAL selects a monarch machine check processor to accumulate all the
>   error records at the platform level. Once this is done, the OS_MCA
>   procedure will take control of further error handling on all the
>   processors that experienced the machine checks. The OS_MCA layer may
>   need to implement a similar monarch processor selection for the error
>   recovery phase. The operating system will be aware of which
>   processors invoked the SAL_MC_RENDEZ procedure in response to the
>   MC_rendezvous interrupt or the INIT signal and shall wake up those
>   processors.

To further muddy the waters, it looks like the latest Error Handling Guide
has addressed the issue:

>> Intel® Itanium® Processor Family Error Handling Guide April 2004
>>
>> Document Number: 249278-003
>>
>> 2.7.1
>>
>> ...
>> The MCA error information is provided to the OS_MCA layer. The MCA
>> error record is logged to the NVM.  To simplify SAL implementation, it
>> is strongly recommended that SAL process all MCAs by handing off to the
>> OS as soon as possible to prevent some OSes from experiencing time-outs
>> and potentially crashing the system. >>>> The SAL may maintain a variable in
>> the SAL data area that indicates whether SAL, on one of the processors,
>> is already handling an MCA. If so, MCA processing on other processors will
>> wait within the SAL MCA handler until the current MCA is processed. This
>> situation may arise when local MCAs are experienced on multiple
>> processors. <<<<<<<


However, it says "may maintain a variable...".  Should I interpret this as 
allowing but not requiring serialization?


-- 
Thanks

Jack Steiner (steiner@sgi.com)          651-683-5302
Principal Engineer                      SGI - Silicon Graphics, Inc.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-04 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-26  2:47 [patch] fix per-CPU MCA mess and make UP kernels work again David Mosberger
2005-01-26 16:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-01-26 17:13 ` Russ Anderson
2005-01-26 17:48 ` David Mosberger
2005-01-26 17:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-01-26 18:05 ` David Mosberger
2005-01-26 18:11 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-01-26 19:01 ` Russ Anderson
2005-01-26 19:23 ` Luck, Tony
2005-01-26 20:07 ` David Mosberger
2005-01-26 21:40 ` Russ Anderson
2005-01-26 21:50 ` David Mosberger
2005-01-26 22:13 ` Luck, Tony
2005-01-26 22:16 ` David Mosberger
2005-01-26 22:19 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-01-26 22:33 ` Luck, Tony
2005-01-27  0:40 ` David Mosberger
2005-01-27  0:55 ` Luck, Tony
2005-01-28 22:54 ` Russ Anderson
2005-02-02  1:04 ` Luck, Tony
2005-02-02 20:25 ` Russ Anderson
2005-02-03 22:48 ` Luck, Tony
2005-02-03 23:48 ` Russ Anderson
2005-02-04  2:09 ` Jack Steiner
2005-02-04  3:00 ` Keith Owens
2005-02-04 16:24 ` Jack Steiner [this message]
2005-02-04 16:34 ` Russ Anderson
2005-02-06 15:58 ` Russ Anderson
2005-02-07 22:58 ` Luck, Tony

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