From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: boot-time slowdown for measure_migration_cost
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:21:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060130172140.GB11793@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601271403.27065.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
* Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> wrote:
> The boot-time migration cost auto-tuning stuff seems to have been
> merged to Linus' tree since 2.6.15. On little one- or two-processor
> systems, the time required to measure the migration costs isn't very
> noticeable, but by the time we get to even a four-processor ia64 box,
> it adds about 30 seconds to the boot time, which seems like a lot.
>
> Is that expected? Is the information we get really worth that much?
> Could the measurement be done at run-time instead? Is there a smaller
> hammer we could use, e.g., flushing just the buffer rather than the
> *entire* cache? Did we just implement sched_cacheflush() incorrectly
> for ia64?
>
> Only ia64, x86, and x86_64 currently have a non-empty
> sched_cacheflush(), and the x86* ones contain only "wbinvd()". So I
> suspect that only ia64 sees this slowdown. But I would guess that
> other arches will implement it in the future.
the main cost comes from accessing the test-buffer when the buffer size
gets above the real cachesize. There are a coupe of ways to improve
that:
- double-check that max_cache_size gets set up correctly on your
architecture - the code searches from ~64K to 2*max_cache_size.
- take the values that are auto-detected and use the migration_cost=
boot parameter - see Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt:
migration_cost [KNL,SMP] debug: override scheduler migration costs
Format: <level-1-usecs>,<level-2-usecs>,...
This debugging option can be used to override the
default scheduler migration cost matrix. The numbers
are indexed by 'CPU domain distance'.
E.g. migration_cost\x1000,2000,3000 on an SMT NUMA
box will set up an intra-core migration cost of
1 msec, an inter-core migration cost of 2 msecs,
and an inter-node migration cost of 3 msecs.
(a distribution could do this automatically as well in the installer,
i've constructed the bootup printout to be in the format that is
needed for migration_cost. I have not tested this too extensively
though, so double-check the result via an additional
migration_debug=2 printout as well! Let me know if you find any bugs
here.)
via this solution you will get zero overhead on subsequent bootups.
- in kernel/sched.c, decrease ITERATIONS from 2 to 1. This will make the
measurement more noisy though.
- in kernel/sched.c, change this line:
size = size * 20 / 19;
to:
size = size * 10 / 9;
this will probably halve the cost - against at the expense of
accuracy and statistical stability.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-30 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-27 21:03 boot-time slowdown for measure_migration_cost Bjorn Helgaas
2006-01-27 21:48 ` Luck, Tony
2006-01-27 22:08 ` Prarit Bhargava
2006-01-30 17:21 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-01-30 18:53 ` Luck, Tony
2006-01-30 19:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-30 20:00 ` Luck, Tony
2006-01-30 20:43 ` Prarit Bhargava
2006-01-30 20:52 ` Prarit Bhargava
2006-01-30 20:43 ` John Hawkes
2006-01-30 19:26 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-02-01 0:50 ` Chuck Ebbert
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