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From: Brent Casavant <bcasavan@sgi.com>
To: Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: wmb vs mmiowb
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:21:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070828155714.Q5403@pkunk.americas.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708230956.17049.jesse.barnes@intel.com>

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Jesse Barnes wrote:

> On Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:27 am Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > Of course, the normal memory barrier would usually be a
> > > "spin_unlock()" or something like that, not a "wmb()". In fact, I
> > > don't think the powerpc implementation (as an example of this) will
> > > actually synchronize with anything *but* a spin_unlock().
> >
> > We are even more sneaky in the sense that we set a per-cpu flag on
> > any MMIO write and do the sync automatically in spin_unlock() :-)
> 
> Yeah, that's a reasonable thing to do, and in fact I think there's code 
> to do something similar when a task is switched out (this keeps user 
> level drivers from having do mmiowb() type things).

Yes there is, git commit e08e6c521355cd33e647b2f739885bc3050eead6.

On SN2 any user process performing memory-mapped IO directly to a
device needs something like mmiowb() to be performed at the node of
the CPU it last ran on when the task context switches onto a new CPU.

The current code performs this action for all inter-CPU context
switches, but we had discussed the possibility of targetting the
action only when the user process has actually mapped a device for
IO.  I believe it was decided that this level of complexity wasn't
warranted unless this simple solution was found to cause a problem.

That reminds me.  Are the people who are working on the user-level
driver effort including a capability similar to mmiowb()?  If we
had that capability we could eventually do away with the change
mentioned above.  But that would come after all user-level drivers
were coded to include the mmiowb()-like calls, and existing drivers
which provide mmap() capability directly to hardware go away.

Brent

-- 
Brent Casavant                          All music is folk music.  I ain't
bcasavan@sgi.com                        never heard a horse sing a song.
Silicon Graphics, Inc.                    -- Louis Armstrong

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-28 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-22  4:57 wmb vs mmiowb Nick Piggin
2007-08-22 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-22 19:02   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-08-23  2:20     ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23  2:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-23  3:54         ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23 16:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-23  4:20         ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23 16:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-23 16:27             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-08-24  3:09               ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-28 20:56                 ` Brent Casavant
2007-08-29  0:59                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-29 18:53                     ` Brent Casavant
2007-08-30  3:36                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-30 19:42                         ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-03 20:48                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-24  2:59             ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23 17:02       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-08-23  1:59   ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23  7:27   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-08-23 16:56     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-08-24  3:12       ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-28 21:21       ` Brent Casavant [this message]
2007-08-28 23:01         ` Peter Chubb
2007-08-23  7:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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