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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] Simplify the Linux kernel by reducing its state space
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:21:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120331212149.GI2450@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1333227608.2325.4054.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:00:08PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 00:33 +0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Although there have been numerous complaints about the complexity of
> > parallel programming (especially over the past 5-10 years), the plain
> > truth is that the incremental complexity of parallel programming over
> > that of sequential programming is not as large as is commonly believed.
> > Despite that you might have heard, the mind-numbing complexity of modern
> > computer systems is not due so much to there being multiple CPUs, but
> > rather to there being any CPUs at all.  In short, for the ultimate in
> > computer-system simplicity, the optimal choice is NR_CPUS=0.
> > 
> > This commit therefore limits kernel builds to zero CPUs.  This change
> > has the beneficial side effect of rendering all kernel bugs harmless.
> > Furthermore, this commit enables additional beneficial changes, for
> > example, the removal of those parts of the kernel that are not needed
> > when there are zero CPUs.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > ---
> 
> Hmm... I believe you could go one step forward and allow negative values
> as well. Antimatter was proven to exist after all.
> 
> Hint : nr_cpu_ids is an "int", not an "unsigned int"
> 
> Bonus: Existing bugs become "must have" features.

;-) ;-) ;-)

> Of course there is no hurry and this can wait 365 days.

James Bottomley suggested imaginary numbers of CPUs some time back,
and I suppose there is no reason you cannot have fractional numbers of
CPUs, and perhaps irrational numbers as well.  Of course, these last two
would require use of floating-point arithmetic (or something similar)
in the kernel.  So I guess we have at several years worth.  Over to you
for the negative numbers.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-31 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-31 16:33 [PATCH RFC] Simplify the Linux kernel by reducing its state space Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-31 16:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-03-31 16:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found] ` <CAHrUA35Bz68DtP-Znr=-+U+6P9CONXzN=9JdMXRfRwmVV9fy=Q@mail.gmail.com>
2012-03-31 20:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-31 20:15 ` Linas Vepstas
2012-03-31 20:25   ` Randy Dunlap
2012-03-31 20:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-31 21:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-03-31 21:21   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-03-31 22:19     ` Lorenz Kolb
2012-03-31 22:34       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-31 22:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-01  1:22   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-01 17:34   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-01 18:12     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-01 10:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-01 18:11   ` Paul E. McKenney

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