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From: David Mosberger-Tang <David.Mosberger@acm.org>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:18:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed5aea43050909161822104760@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0509091501240.12956@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

I see your point about non-interrupt sources but the idea can be
generalized: rather than letting time catch up in a single huge jump,
do it gradually.  Say for every timer tick, you advance by one extra
tick.  I _think_ that could work well in practice.

  --david

On 9/9/05, Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, David Mosberger-Tang wrote:
> 
> > I also would be nervous about the proposed patch.
> 
> Yes, I am also a bit concerned but there seems to be no other
> good solution.
> 
> > I'm wondering: could the problem be avoided perhaps by running all
> > other pending (lower-priority) interrupts first when you detect a
> > large jump in elapsed time?  In other words, when you detect a jump
> > from time T1 to T2 with (T2-T1) greater than some threshold, you make
> > sure you run all pending interrupts while still at time T1 and only
> > after that is done you let time catch up to T2.
> 
> I think we are not talking about hardware interupts. Those can happen
> anytime and given the system was frozen for an extended time period
> likely have already completed before the timer interrupt happens for
> the first time after the system begins to unfreeze.
> 
> I think the main issue are drivers events. These are dependent on jiffies
> (which may be checked by drivers in a varity of ways) or are timer events
> (which also may expect jiffies to have a certain value).
> 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-09 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-09 22:02 [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 22:10 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze Magenheimer, Dan (HP Labs Fort Collins)
2005-09-09 22:33 ` David Mosberger-Tang
2005-09-09 22:36 ` Luck, Tony
2005-09-09 23:13 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 23:18 ` David Mosberger-Tang [this message]
2005-09-09 23:19 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze Magenheimer, Dan (HP Labs Fort Collins)
2005-09-11 17:04 ` Magenheimer, Dan (HP Labs Fort Collins)
2005-09-12 16:27 ` Tian, Kevin
2005-09-12 16:42 ` Tian, Kevin
2005-09-19 18:04 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 18:10 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze David Mosberger-Tang
2005-09-19 18:23 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 19:06 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze Luck, Tony
2005-09-19 19:21 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 20:16 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze David Mosberger-Tang
2005-09-19 21:26 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 21:32 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze David Mosberger-Tang
2005-09-19 21:38 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 22:03 ` [RFC] timer_interrupt: Avoid device timeouts by freezing time if system froze Luck, Tony
2005-09-19 22:12 ` David Mosberger-Tang

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