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From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.4.18)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:58:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-ia64-105590701905814@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-ia64-105590678205111@msgid-missing>

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:04:16 -0700, 
David Mosberger <davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:09:24 +1000, Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au> said:
>  Keith> * Moves force setting of DEVFS for SN[12] to fs/Config.in.
>
>  Keith> * Removes the attempt to set BLOCK variables from
>  Keith> arch/ia64/config.in and adds the dependency on HP_SIM to
>  Keith> drivers/block/Config.in.  This is the only method that stands
>  Keith> any chance of working for xconfig.  ACPI is already done this
>  Keith> way for the same reason, the arch dependencies are inside the
>  Keith> ACPI menu, not in the arch menu.
>
>Now these I really don't like.  I don't think it's good to clutter
>platform-independent config files with platform-specific info just
>because xconfig is broken.  As far as I know, these things work
>perfectly fine with "oldconfig", "config", and "menuconfig".  (I don't
>feel as strongly about this for DEVFS as I do for HP_SIM; but clearly
>HP_SIM is such a special case that I'd prefer to keep it in the
>ia64-specific config file.)

I agree, but given the restrictions of CML1, there is no choice.  The
problem is not just xconfig, it affects menuconfig as well.  Before
this patch, arch/ia64/config.in set DEVFS=y for SN[12] but there was
nothing stopping a user changing DEVFS in the fs menu.  Other cross
menu dependencies have the same problem with any config system that
allows out of order evaluation.

CML1 does _not_ enforce dependencies across menus, the dependencies
have to be in a single menu.  This was one of the driving forces behind
CML2, to get some method for doing cross menu constraints.  Without
CML2, we have to scatter arch dependent code over generic config menus :(.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-23  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 217+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-06-01  8:54 [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.4.0-test1) David Mosberger
2000-06-03 17:32 ` Manfred Spraul
2000-06-10  1:07 ` David Mosberger
2000-06-10  1:11 ` David Mosberger
2000-07-14 21:37 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0-test4) David Mosberger
2000-08-12  5:02 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.4.0-test6) David Mosberger
2000-08-14 11:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2000-08-14 17:00 ` David Mosberger
2000-09-09  6:51 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.4.0-test8) David Mosberger
2000-09-09 19:07 ` H . J . Lu
2000-09-09 20:49 ` David Mosberger
2000-09-09 21:25 ` Uros Prestor
2000-09-09 21:33 ` H . J . Lu
2000-09-09 21:45 ` David Mosberger
2000-09-09 21:49 ` H . J . Lu
2000-09-10  0:17 ` David Mosberger
2000-09-10  0:24 ` Uros Prestor
2000-09-10  0:39 ` H . J . Lu
2000-09-10  0:57 ` H . J . Lu
2000-09-10 15:47 ` H . J . Lu
2000-09-14  1:50 ` David Mosberger
2000-10-05 19:01 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.4.0-test9) David Mosberger
2000-10-05 22:08 ` Keith Owens
2000-10-05 22:15 ` David Mosberger
2000-10-31  8:55 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0-test9) David Mosberger
2000-11-02  8:50 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0-test10) David Mosberger
2000-11-02 10:39 ` Pimenov, Sergei
2000-11-16  7:59 ` David Mosberger
2000-12-07  8:26 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0-test11) David Mosberger
2000-12-07 21:57 ` David Mosberger
2000-12-15  5:00 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0-test12) David Mosberger
2000-12-15 22:43 ` Nathan Straz
2001-01-09  9:48 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0) David Mosberger
2001-01-09 11:05 ` Sapariya Manish.j
2001-01-10  3:26 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0) - copy_user fi Mallick, Asit K
2001-01-12  2:30 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.0) Jim Wilson
2001-01-26  4:53 ` David Mosberger
2001-01-31 20:32 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.1) David Mosberger
2001-03-01  7:12 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.2) David Mosberger
2001-03-01 10:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-03-01 10:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-03-01 15:29 ` David Mosberger
2001-03-02 12:26 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-09  4:52 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.4) Keith Owens
2001-05-09  5:07 ` David Mosberger
2001-05-09 11:45 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-09 13:38 ` Jack Steiner
2001-05-09 14:06 ` David Mosberger
2001-05-09 14:21 ` Jack Steiner
2001-05-10  4:14 ` David Mosberger
2001-05-31  7:37 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.5) David Mosberger
2001-06-27  7:09 ` David Mosberger
2001-06-27 17:24 ` Richard Hirst
2001-06-27 18:10 ` Martin Wilck
2001-07-23 23:49 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.7) David Mosberger
2001-07-24  1:50 ` Keith Owens
2001-07-24  3:02 ` Keith Owens
2001-07-24 16:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-07-24 18:42 ` David Mosberger
2001-08-14  8:15 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.8) Chris Ahna
2001-08-14  8:19 ` David Mosberger
2001-08-14  8:51 ` Keith Owens
2001-08-14 15:48 ` David Mosberger
2001-08-14 16:23 ` Don Dugger
2001-08-14 17:06 ` David Mosberger
2001-08-15  0:22 ` Keith Owens
2001-08-21  3:55 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.9) David Mosberger
2001-08-22 10:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-08-22 17:42 ` Chris Ahna
2001-09-25  7:13 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.10) David Mosberger
2001-09-25  7:17 ` David Mosberger
2001-09-25 12:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-09-25 15:14 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-09-25 15:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-09-26 22:49 ` David Mosberger
2001-09-26 22:51 ` David Mosberger
2001-09-27  4:57 ` Keith Owens
2001-09-27 17:48 ` David Mosberger
2001-10-02  5:20 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-02  5:50 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-11  2:47 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.11) David Mosberger
2001-10-11  4:39 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-25  4:27 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.13) David Mosberger
2001-10-25  4:30 ` David Mosberger
2001-10-25  5:26 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-25  6:21 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-25  6:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-10-25 19:55 ` Luck, Tony
2001-10-25 20:20 ` David Mosberger
2001-10-26 14:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-10-30  2:20 ` David Mosberger
2001-11-02  1:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2001-11-06  1:23 ` David Mosberger
2001-11-06  6:59 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.14) David Mosberger
2001-11-07  1:48 ` Keith Owens
2001-11-07  2:47 ` David Mosberger
2001-11-27  5:24 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.16) David Mosberger
2001-11-27 13:04 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-11-27 17:02 ` John Hesterberg
2001-11-27 22:03 ` John Hesterberg
2001-11-29  0:41 ` David Mosberger
2001-12-05 15:25 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.10) n0ano
2001-12-15  5:13 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.16) David Mosberger
2001-12-15  8:12 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-16 12:21 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.10) Zach, Yoav
2001-12-17 17:11 ` n0ano
2001-12-26 21:15 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.16) David Mosberger
2001-12-27  6:38 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.4.17) David Mosberger
2001-12-27  8:09 ` j-nomura
2001-12-27 21:59 ` Christian Groessler
2001-12-31  3:13 ` Matt_Domsch
2002-01-07 11:30 ` j-nomura
2002-02-08  7:02 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.3) David Mosberger
2002-02-27  1:47 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.18) David Mosberger
2002-02-28  4:40 ` Peter Chubb
2002-02-28 19:19 ` David Mosberger
2002-03-06 22:33 ` Peter Chubb
2002-03-08  6:38 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.5) David Mosberger
2002-03-09 11:08 ` Keith Owens
2002-04-26  7:15 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.5.10) David Mosberger
2002-05-31  6:08 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.5.18) David Mosberger
2002-06-06  2:01 ` Peter Chubb
2002-06-06  3:16 ` David Mosberger
2002-06-07 21:54 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2002-06-07 22:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2002-06-09 10:34 ` Steffen Persvold
2002-06-14  3:12 ` Peter Chubb
2002-06-22  8:57 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.18) David Mosberger
2002-06-22  9:25 ` David Mosberger
2002-06-22 10:05 ` Steffen Persvold
2002-06-22 19:03 ` David Mosberger
2002-06-22 19:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-08 22:08 ` Kimio Suganuma
2002-07-08 22:14 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-20  7:08 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.4.18) David Mosberger
2002-07-22 11:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-22 12:31 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-22 12:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-22 12:54 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-22 18:05 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-22 23:54 ` Kimio Suganuma
2002-07-23  1:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-23  1:10 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-23  1:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-23  1:28 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-23  1:35 ` Grant Grundler
2002-07-23  3:09 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-23  5:04 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-23  5:58 ` Keith Owens [this message]
2002-07-23  6:15 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-23 12:09 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-23 15:38 ` Wichmann, Mats D
2002-07-23 16:17 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-23 16:28 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-23 16:30 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-23 18:08 ` KOCHI, Takayoshi
2002-07-23 19:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-24  4:30 ` KOCHI, Takayoshi
2002-08-22 13:42 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.19) Bjorn Helgaas
2002-08-22 14:22 ` Wichmann, Mats D
2002-08-22 15:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2002-08-23  4:52 ` KOCHI, Takayoshi
2002-08-23 10:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-08-30  5:42 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.5.32) David Mosberger
2002-08-30 17:26 ` KOCHI, Takayoshi
2002-08-30 19:00 ` David Mosberger
2002-09-18  3:25 ` Peter Chubb
2002-09-18  3:32 ` David Mosberger
2002-09-18  6:54 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.35) David Mosberger
2002-09-28 21:48 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.39) David Mosberger
2002-09-30 23:28 ` Peter Chubb
2002-09-30 23:49 ` David Mosberger
2002-10-01  4:26 ` Peter Chubb
2002-10-01  5:19 ` David Mosberger
2002-10-03  2:33 ` Jes Sorensen
2002-10-03  2:46 ` KOCHI, Takayoshi
2002-10-13 23:39 ` Peter Chubb
2002-10-17 11:46 ` Jes Sorensen
2002-11-01  6:18 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.45) David Mosberger
2002-12-11  4:44 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.4.20) Bjorn Helgaas
2002-12-12  2:00 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-13 17:36 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2002-12-21  9:00 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.52) David Mosberger
2002-12-26  6:07 ` Kimio Suganuma
2003-01-02 21:27 ` David Mosberger
2003-01-25  5:02 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.59) David Mosberger
2003-01-25 20:19 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-01-27 18:47 ` David Mosberger
2003-01-28 19:44 ` Arun Sharma
2003-01-28 19:55 ` David Mosberger
2003-01-28 21:34 ` Arun Sharma
2003-01-28 23:09 ` David Mosberger
2003-01-29  4:27 ` Peter Chubb
2003-01-29  6:07 ` David Mosberger
2003-01-29 14:06 ` Erich Focht
2003-01-29 17:10 ` Luck, Tony
2003-01-29 17:48 ` Paul Bame
2003-01-29 19:08 ` David Mosberger
2003-02-12 23:26 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to 2.5.60) David Mosberger
2003-02-13  5:52 ` j-nomura
2003-02-13 17:53 ` Grant Grundler
2003-02-13 18:36 ` David Mosberger
2003-02-13 19:17 ` Grant Grundler
2003-02-13 20:00 ` David Mosberger
2003-02-13 20:11 ` Grant Grundler
2003-02-18 19:52 ` Jesse Barnes
2003-03-07  8:19 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.5.64) David Mosberger
2003-04-12  4:28 ` [Linux-ia64] kernel update (relative to v2.5.67) David Mosberger
2003-04-14 12:55 ` Takayoshi Kochi
2003-04-14 17:00 ` Howell, David P
2003-04-14 18:45 ` David Mosberger
2003-04-14 20:56 ` Alex Williamson
2003-04-14 22:13 ` Howell, David P
2003-04-15  9:01 ` Takayoshi Kochi
2003-04-15 22:03 ` David Mosberger
2003-04-15 22:12 ` Alex Williamson
2003-04-15 22:27 ` David Mosberger

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