From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Mosberger Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:59:12 +0000 Subject: RE: [Linux-ia64] Itanium gets supercomputing software Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org >>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:37:39 +0200, "Adriano Galano" said: >> >>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 06:55:30 +1000, Duraid Madina >> said: Duraid> You and I both know the only real barrier to Itanium Duraid> adoption is the price. Can anyone here shed some light on Duraid> this? Why is Itanium hardware still so expensive? >> Remember that Intel is targeting Itanium 2 against Power4 and SPARC. >> In that space, the price of Itanium 2 is very competitive. Adriano> What's mean very competitive? How it compare with Power* for example? AFAIK, Power4 CPUs are not sold on the open market, so it's difficult to compare the price of the CPU alone (surely IBM has a list price, but with different discount schedules, that price may or may not be meaningful in practice). Here is one real price point for an Itanium 2 workstation: - hp workstation zx2000 (Linux software enablement kit) - Intel? Itanium 2 900MHz Processor with 1.5MB on-chip L3 cache - 512MB Total PC2100 Registered ECC DDR 266 SDRAM Memory (2x256MB) - 40GB EIDE Hard Drive - NVIDIA Quadro2 EX - 10/100/1000BT LAN integrated - 16X Max DVD-ROM - Linux software enablement kit (not an operating system) - 3-year warranty, next-day, onsite hardware response, Mon - Fri, 8am - 5pm - $3,298 (To see this config, go to www.hp.com, then click on "online shopping" -> "small and medium business store" -> "workstations" -> "hp Itanium 2-based workstations" -> "zx2000"). I don't know exactly what price/configuration Power4 machines start. Perhaps one of the IBMers on this list could chime in? --david