From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Duraid Madina Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:54:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] Re: Itanium gets supercomputing software Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org David Mosberger wrote: >>>>>>On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 06:49:35 +1000, Duraid Madina said: > > Duraid> My point wasn't that software simulators are useless, but > Duraid> that software simulators _should_ be useless **4 years** > Duraid> (!!) after the public availability of hardware. > > Then how do you explain the popularity of user-mode linux on x86? If user-mode linux is "popular", then linux is "f@#%g buggy s#!t". I mean really, when your attitude to software development is: hey somethings wrong my swap is full what gives???? stop running 91589 copies of XMMS 8) shut up riel god i hate you ** Riel is banned from linux-kernel YO CHECK OUT THE NEW VM SYSTEM I WROTE THIS MORNING^H^H^H^H^H^H^HWEEK!! ITLL FIX YOUR PROBLEMS!!!! k i know 2.4 is supposed to be a "stable" kernel but god i hate that riel dude!! :| welp.. out with the old, in with the new!!!!! ** Linus integrates new VM THANKS D00D no probs m8 ..then yes, having UML as a sandbox can help. The UML guys see it differently though. According to them: "It doesn't need to be good for anything. It's fun!" Maybe Ski can embrace this spirit also. ;) > The reason I continue to use Ski is because it's one of the very few > simulators out there that are (a) architecturally extremely accurate, > (b) fast, and (c) very easy to setup & use. Ski is an asset for ia64 > linux, not a weakness. > > (And no, just because we have Ski doesn't mean we don't use real > hardware. Nothing could be further from the truth.) That's right - _you_ use real hardware because you actually have it. Everyone else (figuratively speaking, though it's not far off the mark) has no choice _but_ to use Ski. That sucks, regardless of whether or not Ski is accurate, fast, or easy to use. Anyway, I don't think there's much more that can be said. As Matt indicated, we must pray for Deerfield, so I will continue to align my holy carpet of hope to Fort Collins/Portland/Carly's hotel bedroom and pray for reasonably priced IA64 hardware. Duraid