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From: Grant Grundler <iod00d@hp.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NS83820 2.6.0-test5 driver seems unstable on IA64
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:38:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-ia64-106435005618770@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-ia64-106394503001622@msgid-missing>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:51:22AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> > Even x86 pays at least a one cycle penalty for every misaligned access.
> 
> Yes, one cycle, and it's completely lost in the noise when it happens.

Depends on the app - for the networking stack, I agree.

To revisit Ben's comment: if we know something is likely to be misaligned,
a RISC processor can efficiently load both parts and merge them (one cycle
penalty vs a regular aligned load). Given misaligned accesses are infrequent
enough to affect performance, it makes sense to do this in SW because
it reduces cost of the HW design/test/mfg cycles.

...
> It is an unavoidable axoim in the kernel networking.  Unaligned accesses
> will happen, and they aren't a bug and therefore not worthy of mention
> in the kernel logs any more than "page was freed" :-)

Ok. If the kernel networking stack used get_unaligned() in the one place
Peter originally found, x86/sparc64?/et al wouldn't see a difference.
It would avoid traps on ia64 and parisc.  Bad idea?
Any other arches it might help/hurt on?

grant

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-23 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-19  4:16 NS83820 2.6.0-test5 driver seems unstable on IA64 Peter Chubb
2003-09-19  4:38 ` Grant Grundler
2003-09-19  4:43 ` Andi Kleen
2003-09-19  5:01 ` Peter Chubb
2003-09-19  5:04 ` Grant Grundler
2003-09-19  5:11 ` Peter Chubb
2003-09-19  5:53 ` Andi Kleen
2003-09-19 10:49 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-09-23  0:34 ` Peter Chubb
2003-09-23  0:36 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-09-23  6:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 10:40 ` Peter Chubb
2003-09-23 10:51 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 14:59 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 17:27 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 17:56 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 17:56 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 17:57 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 17:58 ` Van Maren, Kevin
2003-09-23 18:06 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 18:21 ` Luck, Tony
2003-09-23 18:27 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 18:29 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-09-23 18:45 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 18:47 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 18:51 ` Grant Grundler
2003-09-23 18:51 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 18:52 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 18:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-09-23 19:01 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 19:04 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-09-23 19:08 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 19:09 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-09-23 19:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-23 19:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 19:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 19:11 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-09-23 19:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-09-23 19:17 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 19:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 19:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-23 19:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-23 20:00 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 20:00 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 20:38 ` Grant Grundler [this message]
2003-09-23 20:45 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 21:00 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-23 21:16 ` David Mosberger
2003-09-23 22:35 ` Grant Grundler
2003-09-23 22:58 ` Luck, Tony
2003-09-23 23:04 ` Ian Wienand
2003-09-23 23:15 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-23 23:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 23:35 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 23:35 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-23 23:37 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24  0:04 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24  0:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24  0:13 ` Grant Grundler
2003-09-24  0:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-24  1:47 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24  1:58 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-24  2:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24  3:08 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24  5:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-25 16:11 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-09-26  1:12 ` David S. Miller

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