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From: Erik Slagter <erik@slagter.name>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>, Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata and PATA devices
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:17:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1123755440.4226.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58cb370e05081103031cb9ccdb@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 12:03 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > > > Most current laptops ship with a PATA hard drive, and a PATA
> > > > ATAPI drive.  The easiest way to make them usable under Linux-2.6
> 
> New laptops rather ship with:
> 
> SATA (or PATA + bridge) hard disk and PATA ATAPI drive

How do I find out?

As ICH6M features both PATA and SATA connections, I don't see why they'd
use a PATA bridge... The DVD drives use PATA anyway, btw.

> > You are sort of contradicting yourself. My setup (Dell laptop with ICH6M
> > and PATA harddisk) defaults to using libata for the PATA hardisk. Only

> Are you sure?

Yes I am sure. I can give you all the data to verify it yourself.

> I suspect that you have SATA-PATA converter inside the laptop

That would be a possibility, but I don't why.

> (or you are simply not using vanilla kernel).

You bet I always use vanilla kernels.

> > with a specific patch (which adds the PCI id to the IDE driver's id
> > list, and which was not quite accepted here) the IDE driver will
> > recognise the ICH6M and use it (and then it works fine).
> 
> Yes, current situation with ICH6M support really sucks as many laptops
> are set to use combined mode and don't have BIOS option to disable it

Yeah, grmbl.

> so users end up with unusable ATAPI device (== limited to PIO mode
> only because DMA region is already reserved by libata and cannot be
> used by IDE driver).

But with the patch (that adds the ID to the IDE driver), it all works.

> OTOH IDE driver should handle combined mode just fine and provide 
> working ATAPI DMA (+ SMART support for HDD).  I prefer to not go
> this way but the libata development is *extremely* slow (I'm not blaming
> anyone just stating the fact)...

I guess you have a quite bunch of users willing to test here ;-)

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-11 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-07 17:48 libata and PATA devices Andreas Klöckner
2005-08-08  1:43 ` Tejun Heo
2005-08-08  3:02   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-08 10:10     ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-09 13:48       ` Mark Lord
2005-08-09 14:10         ` Mark Lord
2005-08-09 18:01           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-09 17:05         ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-09 18:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-09 17:59         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11  3:57         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11  9:37           ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-11 10:03             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-11 10:17               ` Erik Slagter [this message]
2005-08-11 10:26                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-11 15:29                   ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-11 15:57                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-11 16:48                       ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-11 17:05           ` Mark Lord
2005-08-11 17:19             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 19:38               ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-11 20:19                 ` Wes Newell
2005-08-11 20:21                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 20:25                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-13 11:30                   ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-13 15:33                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-13 15:50                       ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-13 15:56                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-13 16:03                           ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-13 16:44                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-13 16:53                               ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-15 21:39                                 ` Mark Lord
2005-08-16  7:21                                   ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-13 15:56                       ` Tyler
2005-08-13 15:57                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-13 16:05                           ` Erik Slagter
2005-08-13 16:42                             ` Jeff Garzik

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