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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	axboe@suse.de, albertcc@tw.ibm.com, lkosewsk@gmail.com,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling via timeout
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:13:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1146345193.3302.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4450AC03.303@pobox.com>

On Iau, 2006-04-27 at 07:33 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Well overall I want to minimize the change from existing behavior, since 
> there is enough change as it is.  In current libata and drivers/ide, it 
> can continue after a properly indicated DMA error without doing a reset.

Sometimes. But the smarts in it also break some hardware horribly
because the properly indicated DMA error doesn't neccessarily leave the
state machines on the chip sane, and worse it sometimes does resets then
recovery and thats ugly.

> And I just think its rude, to reset hardware when it doesn't need 
> resetting.  Its sorta like the Windows mentality -- "just reboot it, 
> that will fix stuff"  Linux shouldn't be rude to hardware, when it need 
> not be :)

Windows generally uses a 7 second timeout btw.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-29 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-11 13:42 [PATCHSET 5/9] new EH framework, take 2 Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 01/16] libata-eh-fw: add flags for new EH Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 02/16] libata-eh-fw: add new EH operations Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 03/16] libata-eh-fw: hold host_set lock while finishing internal qc Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 04/16] libata-eh-fw: clear IRQ in ata_std_postreset() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 10/16] libata-eh-fw: implement ata_eh_schedule_port() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 07/16] libata-eh-fw: implement ata_port_freeze() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 06/16] libata-eh-fw: use special reserved tag and qc for internal commands Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 05/16] libata-eh-fw: clear SError in ata_std_postreset() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 08/16] libata-eh-fw: update ata_qc_from_tag() to enforce normal/EH qc ownership Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 11/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling via timeout Tejun Heo
2006-04-12 22:36   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-13  2:40     ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-13  3:18       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-13  3:36         ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-27 11:33           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-29 21:13             ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 12/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling from PIO Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 09/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling via error completion Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 14/16] libata-eh-fw: activate ->post_internal_cmd Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 15/16] libata-eh-fw: update SCSI command completion path for new EH Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 13/16] libata-eh-fw: activate ->error_handler Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 16/16] libata-eh-fw: update ata_interrupt() to handle frozen port properly Tejun Heo
2006-04-12 22:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-13  2:59     ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-12 22:41 ` [PATCHSET 5/9] new EH framework, take 2 Jeff Garzik

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