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From: "zhao, forrest" <forrest.zhao@intel.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	lkml@rtr.ca, axboe@suse.de, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] new Power Management for libata
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:18:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1150694318.7132.104.camel@forrest26.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44901325.7050902@gmail.com>

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 22:46 +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > Tejun Heo wrote:
> >> Hello, all.
> >>
> >> This patchset implements new Power Management for libata.  Currently,
> >> only controller-wide suspend and resume are supported.  No per-device
> >> power management yet.  Both memsleep and disksleep work on supported
> >> controllers.
> > 
> > I suppose this is just an RFC?
> 
> Well, not really.
> 
> > We don't want to lose to SCSI device suspend, so merging that would be a 
> > regression AFAICS?  While we're still married to the SCSI layer, we need 
> > to do suspend through sd.c and similar paths.
> > 
> > I also wonder if any developers or users make use of the ability to 
> > suspend/resume individual pieces of hardware, as is (somewhat) supported 
> > in ata_piix in 2.6.17-rcX.
> 
> At first I thought about implementing that and asked Pavel about how to 
> discern between partial PM and system-wide PM so that libata can do 
> things bus-wide on system-wide PM event.  Pavel's response was...
> 
> "> And, one more things.  As written in the first mail, for libata, it
>  > > would be nice to know if a device suspend is due to runtime PM event
>  > > (per-device) or system wide suspend.  What do you think about this? 
>   If
>  > > you agree, what method do you recommend to determine that?
> 
> Currently, runtime pm is unsupported/broken; so any request can be
> thought as system pm.
> 								Pavel"
> 
> So, I determined to ignore per-device PM for the time being.  I think I 
> can still implement it but I'm a bit skeptical about its usefulness.  I 
> personally haven't seen any user of partial power management using sysfs 
> interface.  IIRC, dynamic power management on IDE disks from userspace 
> is done by issuing STANDBY using raw command interface.
> 
> What do you think?

Jeff and Tejun,

Have we achieved a consensus about this new PM patches? The AHCI
suspend/resume patch and ACPI-SATA patch will definitely depend on this
new PM.

Thanks,
Forrest

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-19  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-12 15:50 [PATCHSET] new Power Management for libata Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 02/10] libata: kill per-device PM Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 04/10] libata: update ata_do_simple_cmd() Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 01/10] libata: power down controller only on PMSG_SUSPEND Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 16:32   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-13  2:20     ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 03/10] libata: move ata_do_simple_cmd() right below ata_exec_internal() Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 07/10] sata_sil: separate out sil_init_controller() Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 06/10] libata: implement new Power Management framework Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 16:34   ` Alan Cox
2006-06-13  2:08     ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-13  6:25   ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-13  8:56     ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-13 11:59       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-13  8:17   ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-13  9:00     ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-13  8:54       ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-13  9:15         ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-13  8:37   ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-14  7:56   ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-14 13:29     ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-15  1:33       ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-15  3:41         ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 05/10] libata: implement new EH action ATA_EH_SPINUP Tejun Heo
2006-06-14  1:18   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-14 15:02     ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-14 15:25       ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 09/10] sata_sil24: separate out sil24_init_controller() Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 10/10] sata_sil24: add suspend/sleep support Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 08/10] sata_sil: " Tejun Heo
2006-06-12 15:57 ` [PATCHSET] new Power Management for libata Tejun Heo
2006-06-13  6:28 ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-13  9:09 ` rolled up patch for " Tejun Heo
2006-06-13 10:38   ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-19  5:46     ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-14  1:25 ` [PATCHSET] " Jeff Garzik
2006-06-14 13:46   ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-19  5:18     ` zhao, forrest [this message]
2006-06-19  8:46       ` Tejun Heo

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