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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] sg_ring: a ring of scatterlist arrays
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:31:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1199547072.3399.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712191731.26512.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>


On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 17:31 +1100, Rusty Russell wrote:
> This patch series is the start of my attempt to simplify and make explicit
> the chained scatterlist logic.
> 
> It's not complete: my SATA box boots and seems happy, but all the other
> users of SCSI need to be updated and checked.  But I've gotten far enough
> to believe it's worth persuing.

Sorry for the delay in looking at this, I was busy with Holidays and
things.

When I compare sg_ring with the current sg_chain (and later sg_table)
implementations, I'm actually struck by how similar they are.

The other thing I note is that the problem you're claiming to solve with
sg_ring (the ability to add extra scatterlists to the front or the back
of an existing one) is already solved with sg_chain, so the only real
advantage of sg_ring was that it contains explicit counts, which
sg_table (in -mm) also introduces.

The other differences are that sg_ring only allows adding at the front
or back of an existing sg_ring, it doesn't allow splicing at any point
like sg_chain does, so I'd say it's less functional (not that I actually
want anyone ever to do this, of course ...)

The final point is that sg_ring requires a two level traversal:  ring
list then scatterlist, whereas sg_chain only requires a single level
traversal.  I grant that we can abstract out the traversal into
something that would make users think they're only doing a single level,
but I don't see what the extra level really buys us.

The above analysis seems to suggest that sg_chain is simpler and has
more functionality than sg_ring, unless I've missed anything?

The only thing missing from sg_chain perhaps is an accessor function
that does the splicing, which I can easily construct if you want to try
it out in virtio.

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-05 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-19  6:31 [PATCH 0/7] sg_ring: a ring of scatterlist arrays Rusty Russell
2007-12-19  6:33 ` [PATCH 1/7] sg_ring: introduce " Rusty Russell
2007-12-19  7:31   ` [PATCH 2/7] sg_ring: use in virtio Rusty Russell
2007-12-19  7:33     ` [PATCH 3/7] sg_ring: blk_rq_map_sg_ring as a counterpart to blk_rq_map_sg Rusty Russell
2007-12-19  7:34       ` [PATCH 4/7] sg_ring: dma_map_sg_ring() helper Rusty Russell
2007-12-19  7:36         ` [PATCH 5/7] sg_ring: Convert core scsi code to sg_ring Rusty Russell
2007-12-19  7:37           ` [PATCH 6/7] sg_ring: libata simplification Rusty Russell
2007-12-19  7:38             ` [PATCH 7/7] sg_ring: convert core ATA code to sg_ring Rusty Russell
2007-12-26  8:36               ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-26 17:12                 ` James Bottomley
2007-12-27  0:24                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-12-27  4:21                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-05 15:31 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2008-01-07  4:38   ` [PATCH 0/7] sg_ring: a ring of scatterlist arrays Rusty Russell
2008-01-07  5:01     ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  5:28       ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-07  6:37         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  8:34           ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-07  8:45             ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 12:17               ` Herbert Xu
2008-01-07 15:48     ` James Bottomley
2008-01-08  0:39       ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-09 22:10         ` James Bottomley
2008-01-10  2:01           ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-10 15:27             ` James Bottomley

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