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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What to do about the 2TB limit on HDIO_GETGEO ?
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:17:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206458278.3273.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E87942.2020409@rtr.ca>

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 00:02 -0400, Mark Lord wrote:
> (resending .. forgot to copy the lists originally)
> 
> We have a problem coming down the pipeline.
> 
> Practically all utilities that care about it,
> use ioctl(fd, HDIO_GETGEO) to determine the starting
> sector offset of a hard disk partition.
> 
> SCSI, libata, IDE, USB, Firewire.. you name it.
> 
> The return value uses "unsigned long",
> which on a 32-bit system limits drive offsets to 2TB.
> 
> There will be single drives exceeding this limit within
> the next 12 months or less, and we already have RAID arrays
> that exceed 2TB.
> 
> So.. what's the replacement for HDIO_GETGEO on 32-bits ?
> 
> One candidate might seem to be the existing /sys/block/dev/partition/start
> which I expect is already 64-bit friendly.
> 
> But this requires about 150 lines of somewhat complex C code to access,
> using only the dev_t (from stat(2) on a file) as a starting point,
> or less if one relies upon the udev device name matching the sysfs device name.
> 
> Is it time now for HDIO_GETGEO64 to make an appearance?
> Similar to how the existing BLKGETSIZE64 is supplanting BLKGETSIZE ?

Perhaps I've missed something, but surely geometry doesn't make sense on
a >2TB drive does it?  The only reason we use it on modern disks (which
usually make it up specially for us) is that the DOS partition scheme
requires it.  Once we're over 2TB, isn't it impossible to use DOS
partitions (well, OK, unless you increase the sector size, but that's
only delaying the inevitable), so we can just go with a proper disk
labelling scheme and use BLKGETSIZE64 all the time.

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-25 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <47E875AD.1000901@rtr.ca>
2008-03-25  4:02 ` What to do about the 2TB limit on HDIO_GETGEO ? Mark Lord
2008-03-25  4:19   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-25  5:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 13:37     ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 13:55       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 17:37         ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 19:25           ` Greg KH
2008-03-25 19:34             ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-25 20:36               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 21:20                 ` Greg KH
2008-03-25 21:26                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 23:00                     ` Greg KH
2008-03-25 23:05                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 23:22                         ` Greg KH
2008-03-27 19:05                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-26  0:34             ` Mark Lord
2008-03-26  0:54               ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-26  3:38                 ` Greg KH
2008-03-26  4:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-26  6:04                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-27 19:29                 ` Kay Sievers
2008-03-27 19:38                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-11 23:25                     ` Dan Williams
2008-04-15  7:18                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15 13:47                         ` Mark Lord
2008-04-15 14:20                         ` James Bottomley
2008-04-15 18:16                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-15 23:43                             ` Dan Williams
2008-04-16 20:55                               ` patch sysfs-add-sys-dev-char-block-to-lookup-sysfs-path-by-major-minor.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-03-27 18:51               ` What to do about the 2TB limit on HDIO_GETGEO ? Kay Sievers
2008-03-27 18:55                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-27 19:03                   ` Kay Sievers
2008-03-25 15:17   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2008-03-25 17:31     ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 19:32       ` James Bottomley
2008-03-25 17:45     ` Greg Freemyer
2008-03-25 17:52       ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-25 18:09         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-26  9:58           ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-30  4:28       ` Matt Domsch
     [not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803242254020.2775@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008-03-25 13:34   ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 13:51     ` Greg Freemyer
2008-03-25 14:31     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-25 15:25       ` Andrew Paprocki
2008-03-25 15:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-25 15:48         ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-25 16:47           ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-25 20:51             ` Theodore Tso
     [not found] <abhxL-xC-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <abhRd-1bf-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <ablib-2zv-65@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <abn0B-735-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <abna7-7jK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <abo6b-11J-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <aboSP-2Wf-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <aboSP-2Wf-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <abqrq-6eX-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <abqrq-6eX-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <abqKM-6Ka-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-03-26 11:30                     ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]                     ` <E1JeTq5-00018y-MO@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2008-03-27  3:52                       ` Greg KH
2008-03-27  4:57                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-27 14:45                         ` Mark Lord
2008-03-27 15:15                           ` Greg KH

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