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From: raz ben yehuda <razb@bitband.com>
To: Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>
Cc: linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4 v2] Add documentation for hard disk shockprotection interface
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:03:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1221854586.7473.16.camel@raz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqssmpl0.fsf@denkblock.local>


On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 11:50 +0200, Elias Oltmanns wrote:
> [ For some reason your email has not shown up on linux-ide. ]
yes. I noticed too.
> "Raz Ben-Yehuda" <razb@bitband.com> wrote:
> > Elias
> > looks very interesting.
> > 1. How will it impact VM , swappers , raids ?  
> 
> What exactly do you want to know? As long as the disk is parked, you can
> do no I/O on it, i.e. no swapping is possible. Since I don't know
> anything about the implementation of raids and don't have a raid setup
> here, I can't really tell how a raid device will behave exactly when one
> of its disks has been parked. Generally, all I/O will be delayed until
> the disk is unparked again.
> > 2. you said it has no value for servers ? did you try ?
> 
> Again, I'm not quite sure what you want to know. Obviously, desktops or
> servers for that matter can have disks installed that support the unload
> feature. On these devices you can use the interface as described in my
> document. All I'm saying is that the interface has been designed with
> laptops in mind because I don't see in which situation immediate head
> unloading would be required or even desirable in a classical server
> environment.
I will rephrase. does head parking increase reliability ( MTBF ... MTTF ) of a disk ? 
My servers hardly generate IOs at night times, does head parking at nights extend 
the life of a disk ? or is it the opposite ? does it matter ?
thank you again
raz

> Regards,
> 
> Elias

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-19 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-17 16:28 Disk shock protection in GNU/Linux Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-17 16:34 ` [PATCH 1/4 v2] Introduce ata_id_has_unload() Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-17 16:57   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-18 23:24     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-17 16:37 ` [PATCH 2/4 v2] libata: Implement disk shock protection support Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-17 18:03   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-17 18:08   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-17 18:09   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-19  9:49     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-19 12:14       ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-19 14:06         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-19 14:15           ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-19 15:00             ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-20  4:48               ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-17 16:38 ` [PATCH 3/4 v2] ide: " Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-18 23:24   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-19  0:28     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-19  0:47       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-10-04  9:44     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-10-04 13:49       ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-10-04 23:16         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-10-08 18:56           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-17 16:40 ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] Add documentation for hard disk shock protection interface Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-18 23:28   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-10-04  9:55     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-10-08 18:56       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-19  4:21   ` Grant Grundler
2008-09-19 12:08     ` Elias Oltmanns
     [not found]   ` <1221724782.3261.13.camel@raz>
2008-09-19  9:50     ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] Add documentation for hard disk shockprotection interface Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-19 20:03       ` raz ben yehuda [this message]
2008-09-19 22:05         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-20 23:25           ` Tejun Heo

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