From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Tejun Heo <teheo@suse.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Dongjun Shin <djshin90@gmail.com>,
chris.mason@oracle.com
Subject: Re: about TRIM/DISCARD support and barriers
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:52:56 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1227480776.25499.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1227447584.4901.405.camel@macbook.infradead.org>
On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 13:39 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > We don't attempt to put non-contiguous ranges into a single TRIM yet.
>
> We don't even merge contiguous ranges -- I still need to fix the
> elevators to stop writes crossing writes,
I don't think we want to do that ... it's legal if the write isn't a
barrier and it will inhibit merging. That may be just fine for a SSD,
but it's not for spinning media since they get better performance out of
merged writes.
> before we can stop discards
> from also being barriers. (Discards are just writes, for the purpose of
> that conversation).
Perhaps they shouldn't be ... they have different characteristics. For
instance, a discard may cross a read or write that has no sectors in
common with it; a discard may be merged as a non contiguous range
(assuming the drive supports multiple ranges), etc.
I think it might be better to give it its own type for the elevators.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-23 22:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-23 4:46 about TRIM/DISCARD support and barriers Tejun Heo
2008-11-23 7:11 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-23 7:57 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24 5:40 ` Dongjun Shin
2008-11-24 5:45 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24 5:57 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-23 12:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-23 13:39 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-23 22:52 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2008-11-24 9:03 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-24 18:42 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-24 18:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-24 18:57 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 19:08 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-25 9:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-25 3:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-25 9:15 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 3:01 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-28 13:21 ` Raz Ben-Yehuda
2008-11-29 22:57 ` Tejun Heo
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