From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@redhat.com>,
linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] PCI/MSI: Add pci_enable_msi_partial()
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:01:30 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1404792090.26459.1.camel@concordia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140702202201.GA28852@google.com>
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 14:22 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 03:10:30PM +0200, Alexander Gordeev wrote:
> > There are PCI devices that require a particular value written
> > to the Multiple Message Enable (MME) register while aligned on
> > power of 2 boundary value of actually used MSI vectors 'nvec'
> > is a lesser of that MME value:
> >
> > roundup_pow_of_two(nvec) < 'Multiple Message Enable'
> >
> > However the existing pci_enable_msi_block() interface is not
> > able to configure such devices, since the value written to the
> > MME register is calculated from the number of requested MSIs
> > 'nvec':
> >
> > 'Multiple Message Enable' = roundup_pow_of_two(nvec)
>
> For MSI, software learns how many vectors a device requests by reading
> the Multiple Message Capable (MMC) field. This field is encoded, so a
> device can only request 1, 2, 4, 8, etc., vectors. It's impossible
> for a device to request 3 vectors; it would have to round up that up
> to a power of two and request 4 vectors.
>
> Software writes similarly encoded values to MME to tell the device how
> many vectors have been allocated for its use. For example, it's
> impossible to tell the device that it can use 3 vectors; the OS has to
> round that up and tell the device it can use 4 vectors.
>
> So if I understand correctly, the point of this series is to take
> advantage of device-specific knowledge, e.g., the device requests 4
> vectors via MMC, but we "know" the device is only capable of using 3.
> Moreover, we tell the device via MME that 4 vectors are available, but
> we've only actually set up 3 of them.
>
> This makes me uneasy because we're lying to the device, and the device
> is perfectly within spec to use all 4 of those vectors. If anything
> changes the number of vectors the device uses (new device revision,
> firmware upgrade, etc.), this is liable to break.
It also adds more complexity into the already complex MSI API, across all
architectures, all so a single Intel chipset can save a couple of MSIs. That
seems like the wrong trade off to me.
cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-08 4:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-10 13:10 [PATCH 0/3] Add pci_enable_msi_partial() to conserve MSI-related resources Alexander Gordeev
2014-06-10 13:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI/MSI: Add pci_enable_msi_partial() Alexander Gordeev
[not found] ` <4fef62a2e647a7c38e9f2a1ea4244b3506a85e2b.1402405331.git.agordeev-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-23 20:11 ` Alexander Gordeev
2014-07-02 20:22 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-07-03 9:20 ` David Laight
[not found] ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1726BF4E-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-04 8:58 ` Alexander Gordeev
[not found] ` <20140704085816.GB12247-hdGaXg0bp3uRXgp2RCiI5R/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-04 9:11 ` David Laight
[not found] ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1726C717-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-04 9:54 ` Alexander Gordeev
2014-07-07 19:26 ` Bjorn Helgaas
[not found] ` <CAErSpo7QWc35seoMhJA+H1_=MkKWYMdeYG=hT=i1v=iz8d5ezA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-08 8:33 ` David Laight
[not found] ` <20140702202201.GA28852-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-04 8:57 ` Alexander Gordeev
[not found] ` <20140704085741.GA12247-hdGaXg0bp3uRXgp2RCiI5R/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-07 19:40 ` Bjorn Helgaas
[not found] ` <CAErSpo6f6RXWv0DEtLBZX0jXoSUYJeWrSm7mubSJ_F-O7tQp6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-07 20:42 ` Alexander Gordeev
2014-07-08 12:26 ` Alexander Gordeev
[not found] ` <20140708122606.GB6270-hdGaXg0bp3uRXgp2RCiI5R/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 16:06 ` Bjorn Helgaas
[not found] ` <CAErSpo4oiabgoOjsGdWZpCMPnmopK4xRzB2f3tM0AiUFrdhFww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-10 10:11 ` Alexander Gordeev
2014-07-10 17:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-07-08 4:01 ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2014-06-10 13:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] PCI/MSI/x86: Support pci_enable_msi_partial() Alexander Gordeev
2014-06-10 13:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] AHCI: Use pci_enable_msi_partial() to conserve on 10/16 MSIs Alexander Gordeev
[not found] ` <dba9f0f8e9cccd7625d0f3fab94457482e1a2bd7.1402405331.git.agordeev-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-18 18:54 ` Tejun Heo
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