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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>
To: Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>
Cc: rmk@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: arm-lh7a40x IDE support in 2.6.6
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 00:19:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200405150019.46504.bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040514213332.GA12414@buici.com>

On Friday 14 of May 2004 23:33, Marc Singer wrote:

> > > Listen.  It is not my intention to be clever.  All I want to do is get
> > > things working and to not break other people's code.  I'm certain that
> > > most people are working with the same assumptions.  Aside from some
> > > naive snippets I've see promulgated, the bulk of the kernel work I've
> > > see is sane given limited information.  Certainly, once one
> > > understands a sybsystem completely then the quality rises.  I hope
> > > you'll admit that the IDE code is overly intricate.
> >
> > With changes like this nobody will ever be able to understand
> > IDE subsystem completely. ;-)
>
> I get the feeling that you're blaming me and others for making the IDE
> code a mess.  Might I suggest that this isn't a very productive tack?

Yep, sorry.

> The most helpful thing to do is to a) provide best-practice examples,
> and b) to include some documentation.  I'm not talking about anything
> extensive, but statements like
>
>   "All references to linux/ide.h must reside in the ide tree."
>
> Are pretty darn helpful.

OK, will do (this can take a while).  Can I ask you to review it later?
I think your comments will be very valuable.

> > > > - you are setting IDE_NO_IRQ in ide_init_hwif_ports() which is used
> > > >   in many places in generic IDE code - anybody wanting to understand
> > > >   interactions with your code + generic code will have serious
> > > >   problems (especially if knows _nothing_ about lpd7a40x)
> > >
> > > I don't know what you mean.  I grep for that constant and found it
> > > nowhere except for ide-io.c and in my code.  It doesn't take much to
> > > find the references.
> >
> > I'm talking about ide_init_hwif_ports() function.
>
> Most of the ARM arch's use it.  Perhaps all of them need a good once
> over.

Since some time I have a patch killing <asm/arch-*/ide.h>. :)

> > > > > The OUTB breaks my interface because I don't really have byte-level
> > > > > access to the resgisters.  So, is selectproc a pre-select procedure
> > > > > or should it be a substitute?
> > > >
> > > > pre-select but you can change it to be substitute if you need
> > > > (just remember to update all users if you decide to do this)
> > >
> > > I'll have to search the kernel to see what uses it.  Maybe the better
> > > way would be to define a new select proc that *is* a substitute.
> >
> > Nope.
>
> So then we break anyone who is using the selectproc as a pre-select
> proc?  I don't understand what you mean here.  There are several
> drivers that use this function.  How do you propose that we provide
> both types of behavior with one entry point?

You can add last line of SELECT_DRIVE() to all ->selectproc()
implementations and add 'else' to SELECT_DRIVE().

> > > of the core code is fine.  It is that core code that is necessary to
> > > make the test possible.
> >
> > Stuff in arch-lh7a40x/ide.h is really a driver code but
> > abuses subsystem code instead - that's my complain.
>
> Right.  We agree.  I am talking about the core code.  Not the ide
> code.  The core is what supports the CPU.

Good.

Cheers,
Bartlomiej


  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-14 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-14 16:40 arm-lh7a40x IDE support in 2.6.6 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-14 16:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-14 17:28   ` Marc Singer
2004-05-14 17:26 ` Marc Singer
2004-05-14 18:45   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-14 19:47     ` Marc Singer
2004-05-14 21:23       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-14 21:33         ` Marc Singer
2004-05-14 22:19           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2004-05-14 22:49             ` Marc Singer
2004-05-14 23:26               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-15  0:10                 ` Marc Singer
2004-05-15  0:25                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-15  0:33                     ` Marc Singer
2004-05-14 19:52     ` Russell King
2004-05-14 20:25       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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