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From: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: PATCH: straighten out the IDE layer locking and add hotplug
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:46:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040817144604.GA30778@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408171630.07979.bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl>

On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 04:30:07PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> You forgot about the sad fact that most host drivers can be modular
> thanks to prematuraly making them modular in 2.4. :/

If they are modular their order already changes in some case

> ide_match_hwif() checks for hwif->chipset - ordering will not be the same
> i.e. you load driver for some IDE PCI controller which doesn't have drives 
> attached to it, unload it, load some other driver - hwifs will be reused - 
> some sequence in 2.4 will possibly leave you with different ordering because 
> hwif->chipset will stay as ide_pci not ide_unknown

You can't unload them in 2.4. 

> There are other much more crazy scenerios when you consider using 
> HDIO_SCAN_HWIF nad HDIO_UNREGISTER_HWIF ioctls. ;)

Those cases yes

> > Once you have drive and controller hot plug you don't need them. Until then
> 
> Yep, please tell me how are you going to support drive hot plug?

We can do it the 2.4-ac way - that works with the locking I think. What
might be nicer if it works out is to follow the shutdown/suspend code
approach so that we actually queue the "unplug" into the command stream.

> > some laptop users rely on them. I'd prefer to ignore the issue (its a
> > privileged code path) until the hotplug is there, or patch it up by
> > allowing unregister only of SCAN_HWIF added hwifs ?
> 
> I prefer short deprecation -> removal -> forgetting about them. :)

Ditto but I need the thinkpad docking bay working somehow.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-17 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-15 15:13 PATCH: straighten out the IDE layer locking and add hotplug Alan Cox
2004-08-16 17:23 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-16 17:36   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-16 22:29     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-16 21:43 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-16 21:48   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-17 13:12 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-17 14:05   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-17 14:30     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-17 14:46       ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-08-17 15:05         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-17 15:33           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-17 14:40     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-17 14:12   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-17 14:18     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-17 14:35       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-17 16:11   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-17 20:40     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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