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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:57:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050526055730.GF1419@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <429520EF.2070501@pobox.com>

On Wed, May 25 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >On Tue, May 24 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >
> >>Jens Axboe wrote:
> >>
> >>>I agree, it's a cleaner approach, with the rq being a container for
> >>>generel messages as well not just SCSI commands. The one missing piece
> >>>for that was the rq->end_io() callback so everything doesn't have to go
> >>>down sync, but that is in now as well.
> >>>
> >>>I'll try and cook something up.
> >>
> >>Very cool ;)
> >
> >
> >This is the base for it. It splits request->flags into two variables:
> >
> >- cmd_type. this is not a bitmask, but a value indicating what type of
> >  request this is.
> >
> >- cmd_flags. various command modified flags.
> >
> >The idea is to add a REQ_TYPE_LINUX_BLOCK request type, where we define
> >a set of command opcodes that signify an upper level defined function
> >(such as flush) that is implemented differently at the hardware/driver
> >level. Basically a way to pass down messages or commands generically.
> >
> >I like this better than using scsi opcodes always, it's a cleaner
> >abstraction. For sending generic commands to a device, we could add a
> >function ala:
> 
> cmd_type just adds a needless layer of switch{} statements in block 
> drivers, and its information that can be trivially derived from the 
> command opcode itself.
> 
> 	cmd_type = cmd_types[opcode];
> 
> HOWEVER, don't fall in love with SCSI opcodes.

Eh, I don't follow. The opcode is only valid for cmd_type
REQ_TYPE_LINUX_MSG, not for anything else. Or for REQ_TYPE_BLOCK_PC of
course, like it is right now as well.

> We want _Linux_ commands, not SCSI commands.  Just think of a 
> request_queue as having its own command protocol, one that you can 
> _change at will_.
> 
> Yes, often request_queue commands may map seamlessly to SCSI (or ATA or 
> I2O) commands.  And that's good.  But don't let yourself be locked into 
> SCSI.  SCSI is not generic enough, nor mutable enough for all our needs.
> 
> Just the other day I was thinking about the simpler approach, like the 
> attached :)  It
> * adds RQ_ to avoid namespace conflicts
> * adds RQ_FLUSH, RQ_PM_EVENT
> 
> So, overall, I would say "think Linux opcodes" as the preferred direction.

And that's exactly what I proposed, the REQ_LB_OP_xxx are the linux
specific opcodes that can be defined at will. I'm not locking myself
into SCSI at all, I'm just putting ->cmd[] to use for a new command
type.

Don't confuse/mixup fs.h and the block layer, I don't see your proposal
adding anything of use. The fs.h READ/WRITE/etc were divorced from the
block layer in 2.5.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-26  5:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-23 20:15 [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 20:41 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-23 20:45   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 22:10     ` James Bottomley
2005-05-24  6:21       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  6:53         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  7:06           ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24  7:08             ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  7:16             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  7:07           ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  7:10             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  7:13               ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27  2:49                 ` libata, SCSI and storage drivers Jeff Garzik
2005-05-27  6:45                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-27 14:41                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24  7:14               ` [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24  7:15                 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  7:18                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 10:17                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-24 17:10                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  7:59           ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  8:21             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  8:51               ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 16:37                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-25  9:29                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-25 23:40                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-26  1:05                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-26  5:57                       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2005-05-26 22:56                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-05-27  6:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27  2:01                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-27  6:55                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 13:48           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24 17:29             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 13:05         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-27  2:54       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 16:27   ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:33     ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:04 ` Mark Lord

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