From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:57:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050526055730.GF1419@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <429520EF.2070501@pobox.com>
On Wed, May 25 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >On Tue, May 24 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >
> >>Jens Axboe wrote:
> >>
> >>>I agree, it's a cleaner approach, with the rq being a container for
> >>>generel messages as well not just SCSI commands. The one missing piece
> >>>for that was the rq->end_io() callback so everything doesn't have to go
> >>>down sync, but that is in now as well.
> >>>
> >>>I'll try and cook something up.
> >>
> >>Very cool ;)
> >
> >
> >This is the base for it. It splits request->flags into two variables:
> >
> >- cmd_type. this is not a bitmask, but a value indicating what type of
> > request this is.
> >
> >- cmd_flags. various command modified flags.
> >
> >The idea is to add a REQ_TYPE_LINUX_BLOCK request type, where we define
> >a set of command opcodes that signify an upper level defined function
> >(such as flush) that is implemented differently at the hardware/driver
> >level. Basically a way to pass down messages or commands generically.
> >
> >I like this better than using scsi opcodes always, it's a cleaner
> >abstraction. For sending generic commands to a device, we could add a
> >function ala:
>
> cmd_type just adds a needless layer of switch{} statements in block
> drivers, and its information that can be trivially derived from the
> command opcode itself.
>
> cmd_type = cmd_types[opcode];
>
> HOWEVER, don't fall in love with SCSI opcodes.
Eh, I don't follow. The opcode is only valid for cmd_type
REQ_TYPE_LINUX_MSG, not for anything else. Or for REQ_TYPE_BLOCK_PC of
course, like it is right now as well.
> We want _Linux_ commands, not SCSI commands. Just think of a
> request_queue as having its own command protocol, one that you can
> _change at will_.
>
> Yes, often request_queue commands may map seamlessly to SCSI (or ATA or
> I2O) commands. And that's good. But don't let yourself be locked into
> SCSI. SCSI is not generic enough, nor mutable enough for all our needs.
>
> Just the other day I was thinking about the simpler approach, like the
> attached :) It
> * adds RQ_ to avoid namespace conflicts
> * adds RQ_FLUSH, RQ_PM_EVENT
>
> So, overall, I would say "think Linux opcodes" as the preferred direction.
And that's exactly what I proposed, the REQ_LB_OP_xxx are the linux
specific opcodes that can be defined at will. I'm not locking myself
into SCSI at all, I'm just putting ->cmd[] to use for a new command
type.
Don't confuse/mixup fs.h and the block layer, I don't see your proposal
adding anything of use. The fs.h READ/WRITE/etc were divorced from the
block layer in 2.5.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-26 5:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-23 20:15 [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 20:41 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-23 20:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 22:10 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-24 6:21 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 6:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 7:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:07 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 7:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:13 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27 2:49 ` libata, SCSI and storage drivers Jeff Garzik
2005-05-27 6:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-27 14:41 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24 7:14 ` [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24 7:15 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 7:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 10:17 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-24 17:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:59 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 8:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 8:51 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 16:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-25 9:29 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-25 23:40 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-26 1:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-26 5:57 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2005-05-26 22:56 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-05-27 6:54 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27 2:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-27 6:55 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 13:48 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24 17:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 13:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-27 2:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 16:27 ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:33 ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:04 ` Mark Lord
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