From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Sanjoy Mahajan <sanjoy@mrao.cam.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc5: known regressions [TP 600X S3, vanilla DSDT]
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:55:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060522095531.GC25624@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1FhbYy-0005jL-00@skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk>
Hi!
> > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=173420
>
> >From Comment #30 at the above url: "The Linux ACPI code seems to
> actively prevent the fan from running and that worries me."
>
> I saw that as well, and found the following recipe would work around
> the problem:
>
> 1. Set the trip point to, say, 70 C -- well above the actual
> temperature.
>
> 2. Then set the trip to anything reasonable that's under the current
> temperature (27 C always works). Now the fan turns on, and behaves
> fine from then.
>
> My explanation is that, before step 1, the fan is off but the OS
> thinks it's on. So the dialogue goes something like:
>
> Hardware (from EC or BIOS?): Ack, I'm overheating, turn on the fan now!
> OS: There, there, take it easy. I've checked bit fields in my
> memory, and the fan is on. So I don't have to do anything.
> Hardware: Ack, ...
> OS: There, there, ...
> [Hence the 100% kacpid CPU usage]
>
> Based on this explanation, I added a resume method to the fan driver.
> It would turn on the fan and mark it as on. So then the internal OS
> state matched the actual state. The fix didn't work for at least one
> reason: ACPI drivers didn't have suspend/resume methods (though now
> there are test patches to add those methods).
Can you redo your patches with those methods?
> Another fix, probably worth doing anyway, is to turn on the fan if the
> BIOS asks for it, whether or not the OS thinks it's on. The chance of
> the two pieces of information getting out of synch, and the hardware
> damage it can cause, is enough to make it worthwhile. The reverse
There should be 0% hardware damage chance. Fan failure means overheats
mean emergency power cutoff. I even tested it with paper into fan
blades several times. It mostly works.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-22 9:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-27 9:04 2.6.16-rc5: known regressions Yu, Luming
2006-03-03 2:59 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-03 16:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-03-03 21:04 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-10 5:26 ` 2.6.16-rc5: known regressions [TP 600X S3, vanilla DSDT] Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-05-19 13:44 ` Thomas Renninger
2006-05-21 0:12 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-05-21 0:40 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-22 9:55 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-10 6:12 Yu, Luming
2006-03-10 6:27 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-10 6:46 Yu, Luming
2006-03-10 13:27 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-10 13:36 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-13 2:00 Yu, Luming
2006-03-13 4:38 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-13 4:51 Yu, Luming
2006-03-13 7:28 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-13 8:35 Yu, Luming
2006-03-13 15:21 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-03-14 1:48 Yu, Luming
2006-05-23 13:29 Yu, Luming
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