From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/sd*
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:18:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060809221857.GG3691@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1155160903.5729.263.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 11:01:43PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> Ar Mer, 2006-08-09 am 23:21 +0200, ysgrifennodd Adrian Bunk:
> > It might be a bit out of the scope of this thread, but why do some many
> > subsystems use the /dev/sd* namespace?
> >
> > Real SCSI devices use it.
> > The USB mass storage driver uses it.
>
> USB storage is real SCSI.
Real SCSI for a developer, for a user it's USB.
And things become even more confusing considering that the drive might
show up as /dev/sda or /dev/uba depending on the driver used.
> > libata uses it.
> >
> > I'd expext SATA or PATA devices at /dev/hd* or perhaps at /dev/ata* -
> > but why are they at /dev/sd*?
>
> ATA uses the top half of the scsi stack so ends up using the top layer
> scsi drivers. Its probably more efficient than writing new driver
> clones, especially as non disk ATA is also real SCSI (or very close).
You are talking about kernel<->kernel and kernel<->hardware interfaces.
I'm more concerned about the kernel<->userspace interface.
> You can use /dev/ata if you want - its just a udev problem ;)
Or by adding some manual links if using a static /dev.
But I'm still not getting the point why the /dev/sd* namespace has to be
used.
> Alan
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-09 22:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-09 17:29 Merging libata PATA support into the base kernel Alan Cox
2006-08-09 20:16 ` Mark Lord
2006-08-10 6:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 6:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-10 6:25 ` Olaf Hering
2006-08-11 15:47 ` Mark Lord
2006-08-15 13:31 ` Matthieu CASTET
2006-08-15 13:35 ` Tejun Heo
2006-08-15 14:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-09 21:21 ` /dev/sd* Adrian Bunk
2006-08-09 21:40 ` /dev/sd* Mark Lord
2006-08-09 22:01 ` /dev/sd* Alan Cox
2006-08-09 22:18 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-08-10 1:44 ` /dev/sd* Alan Cox
2006-08-10 6:19 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-10 4:46 ` /dev/sd* Greg KH
2006-08-10 12:36 ` /dev/sd* Gabor Gombas
2006-08-10 12:37 ` /dev/sd* Jeff Garzik
2006-08-17 3:17 ` /dev/sd* Lee Trager
2006-08-17 7:58 ` /dev/sd* Michael Tokarev
2006-08-17 8:10 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-17 8:42 ` /dev/sd* Alan Cox
2006-08-17 8:01 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-17 8:29 ` /dev/sd* Lee Trager
2006-08-17 9:21 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-18 7:11 ` /dev/sd* Seewer Philippe
2006-08-18 8:52 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-18 9:19 ` /dev/sd* Tejun Heo
2006-08-18 14:57 ` /dev/sd* Alan Cox
2006-08-18 15:51 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-18 16:47 ` /dev/sd* Lee Revell
2006-08-18 17:02 ` /dev/sd* Alan Cox
2006-08-21 6:04 ` /dev/sd* Lee Trager
2006-08-21 6:17 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-18 12:45 ` /dev/sd* Bill Davidsen
2006-08-18 15:48 ` /dev/sd* Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-19 0:15 ` /dev/sd* Gabor Gombas
2006-08-17 8:45 ` /dev/sd* Alan Cox
2006-08-10 6:24 ` Merging libata PATA support into the base kernel Andi Kleen
2006-08-10 12:37 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-10 12:20 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-10 14:14 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-10 13:59 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-10 15:54 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-10 19:02 ` Jason Lunz
2006-08-10 19:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-17 3:26 ` Lee Trager
2006-08-17 9:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-17 9:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 9:45 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-17 11:51 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 3:38 ` Lee Trager
2006-08-18 3:57 ` Lee Trager
2006-08-18 16:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 19:22 ` Lee Trager
2006-08-18 20:50 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-19 8:17 ` Lee Trager
2006-08-21 0:44 ` Lee Trager
2006-08-10 19:47 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-10 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-11 15:48 ` Mark Lord
2006-08-10 22:27 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-24 3:31 ` Albert Lee
2006-08-24 3:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-24 4:13 ` Doug Maxey
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