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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: What's in libata-dev.git
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:37:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060911153706.GE4955@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157988513.23085.159.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, Sep 11 2006, Alan Cox wrote:
> Ar Llu, 2006-09-11 am 10:44 -0400, ysgrifennodd Jeff Garzik:
> > > drivers/ide. You might want to do 256 for SATA Jeff but please don't do
> > > 256 for PATA. Reading specs is too hard for some people ;)
> > > 
> > > Some drives abort the xfer, some just choked.
> > 
> > Where in drivers/ide is it limited to 255?
> 
> Being a sensible sanity check it was removed, and that was a small
> mistake. Some 2.4 also has a 256 limit and it broken various transparent
> raid units, older Maxtors(1Gb or so), some IBM drives etc. Got fixed in
> -ac but never in base.
> 
> The failure pattern is pretty ugly too, your box runs and runs and
> eventually you get a linear 256 sector I/O and it all blows up,
> sometimes. The IBM's abort the xfer but the maxtors may or may not get
> it right (its as if half the firmware has the right test).

So this is a confirmed, broken case? Why has no one complained for 2.4
and 2.6?

> We could perhaps do it by ATA version - 255 for ATA < 3 256 for ATA 3+,

Might be sane, yep.

> lots for LBA48 ? Thats assuming you can show 256 sectors is faster than
> 255. I'd bet for normal I/O its unmeasurably small.

255 isn't faster than 256, measurably. But the alignment for "natural"
transfer sizes is much nicer with 256, that's the problem. You really
don't want 248 + 8 going down all the time, for instance. Perhaps it's
not a real problem, but it could be.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-11 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-11 13:22 What's in libata-dev.git Jeff Garzik
2006-09-11 13:35 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-09-11 13:37   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-11 13:47     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-09-11 13:49       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-11 14:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-11 15:24           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-12  8:42           ` Helge Hafting
2006-09-13  1:50             ` Tejun Heo
2006-09-11 15:02       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11 14:44         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-11 15:05           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-09-11 15:28           ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11 15:21             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-09-11 15:37             ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-09-11 15:50               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-11 20:01                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-09-11 20:14                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-11 20:23                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-09-11 16:04               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-11 19:51                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-09-11 23:00                   ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11 22:53                     ` Greg Freemyer
2006-09-12  5:22                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-09-11 16:26               ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11 19:51                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-09-11 15:06         ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-04 17:57   ` Mark Lord
2006-10-04 18:03     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-10-04 18:48       ` Mark Lord
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-24  7:26 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-24 17:26 ` Mark Lord
2007-01-24 19:19   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-24  7:08 Jeff Garzik
2006-04-18  9:54 Jeff Garzik
2006-04-18 15:07 ` Bastiaan Jacques

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