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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>,
	Stephen.Clark@seclark.us, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	7eggert@gmx.de, emisca <emisca.ml@gmail.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:22:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704182322.20514.bzolnier@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46265966.1040102@redhat.com>


On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> Mark Lord wrote:
> > Mark Lord wrote:
> >>
> >> With the patch applied, I don't see *any* new activity in those
> >> S.M.A.R.T.
> >> attributes over multiple hibernates (Linux "suspend-to-disk").
> > 
> > Scratch that -- operator failure.  ;)
> > The patch makes no difference over hibernates in the SMART logs.
> > 
> > It's still logging extra Power-Off_Retract_Count pegs,
> > which it DID NOT USED TO DO not so long ago.
> > 
> 
> Just to add to the fun, my problems are happening with the "old"
> IDE drivers...

The issue you are experiencing results in the same problem (disk doing
power off retract) but it has a totally different root cause - your notebook
loses power on reboot.  It is actually a hardware problem and as you have
reported the same problem is present when using "the other" OS.

I think that the issue needs to be fixed (by detecting affected notebook(s)
using DMI?) in Linux PM handling and not in IDE subsystem because:

* there may be some other hardware devices affected by the power loss
  (== they require shutdown sequence)

* the same problem will bite if somebody decides to use libata (FC7?)

Bart

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-18 21:12 UTC|newest]

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2007-04-18 11:47               ` Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot Bodo Eggert
2007-04-18 12:05                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 12:29                   ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 12:46                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 12:50                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:03                       ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 13:05                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:39                         ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19  7:18                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-19 12:59                             ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 13:32                               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:32                         ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:35                           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:06                           ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 15:16                             ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:25                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 17:08                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:19                                   ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:46                                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:22                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2007-04-18 21:27                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-21 23:20                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 23:27                                             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:29                                         ` Greg Freemyer
2007-04-18 17:46                                     ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 17:50                                       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-20 12:15                                         ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-20 19:57                                         ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21  9:45                                           ` emisca
2007-04-21  9:50                                             ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21 14:33                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-21 15:11                                             ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-18 17:04                               ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-11 21:07 Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 21:35   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:49     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 22:07       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 19:42         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 19:36           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 20:47             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 21:13               ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-15 16:07     ` emisca
2007-04-17 21:41       ` Mark Lord
2007-04-17 21:49         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17 22:03           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18  5:39             ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 21:31               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-18 23:36               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 23:51                 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-14 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-15 15:53   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-15 18:50     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-16 22:26       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17  7:00         ` emisca
2007-04-17  7:37         ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-17 20:15         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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