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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <tomof@acm.org>,
	akpm@osdl.org, michaelc@cs.wisc.edu, hch@infradead.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	bhalevy@panasas.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] bidi support: bidirectional request
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:11:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070430111157.GI21015@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1177872588.3688.79.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>

On Sun, Apr 29 2007, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 18:48 +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> > FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
> > > Subject: [PATCH 4/4] bidi support: bidirectional request
> > > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:33:28 +0300
> > > 
> > >> diff --git a/include/linux/blkdev.h b/include/linux/blkdev.h
> > >> index 645d24b..16a02ee 100644
> > >> --- a/include/linux/blkdev.h
> > >> +++ b/include/linux/blkdev.h
> > >> @@ -322,6 +322,7 @@ struct request {
> > >>      void *end_io_data;
> > >>
> > >>      struct request_io_part uni;
> > >> +    struct request_io_part bidi_read;
> > >>  };
> > > 
> > > Would be more straightforward to have:
> > > 
> > > struct request_io_part in;
> > > struct request_io_part out;
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes I wish I could do that. For bidi supporting drivers this is the most logical.
> > But for the 99.9% of uni-directional drivers, calling rq_uni(), and being some what on
> > the hotish paths, this means we will need a pointer to a uni request_io_part.
> > This is bad because:
> > 1st- There is no defined stage in a request life where to definitely set that pointer,
> >      specially in the preparation stages.
> > 2nd- hacks like scsi_error.c/scsi_send_eh_cmnd() will not work at all. Now this is a
> >      very bad spot already, and I have a short term fix for it in the SCSI-bidi patches
> >      (not sent yet) but a more long term solution is needed. Once such hacks are
> >      cleaned up we can do what you say. This is exactly why I use the access functions
> >      rq_uni/rq_io/rq_in/rq_out and not open code access.
> 
> I'm still not really convinced about this approach.  The primary job of
> the block layer is to manage and merge READ and WRITE requests.  It
> serves a beautiful secondary function of queueing for arbitrary requests
> it doesn't understand (REQ_TYPE_BLOCK_PC or REQ_TYPE_SPECIAL ... or
> indeed any non REQ_TYPE_FS).
> 
> bidirectional requests fall into the latter category (there's nothing
> really we can do to merge them ... they're just transported by the block
> layer).  The only unusual feature is that they carry two bios.  I think
> the drivers that actually support bidirectional will be a rarity, so it
> might even be advisable to add it to the queue capability (refuse
> bidirectional requests at the top rather than perturbing all the drivers
> to process them).
> 
> So, what about REQ_TYPE_BIDIRECTIONAL rather than REQ_BIDI?  That will
> remove it from the standard path and put it on the special command type
> path where we can process it specially.  Additionally, if you take this
> approach, you can probably simply chain the second bio through
> req->special as an additional request in the stream.  The only thing
> that would then need modification would be the dequeue of the block
> driver (it would have to dequeue both requests and prepare them) and
> that needs to be done only for drivers handling bidirectional requests.

I agree, I'm really not crazy about shuffling the entire request setup
around just for something as exotic as bidirection commands. How about
just keeping it simple - have a second request linked off the first one
for the second data phase? So keep it completely seperate, not just
overload ->special for 2nd bio list.

So basically just add a struct request pointer, so you can do rq =
rq->next_rq or something for the next data phase. I bet this would be a
LOT less invasive as well, and we can get by with a few helpers to
support it.

And it should definitely be a request type.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-30 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-15 17:17 [PATCH 0/4] bidi support: block layer bidirectional io Boaz Harrosh
2007-04-15 17:25 ` [PATCH 1/4] bidi support: request dma_data_direction Boaz Harrosh
2007-04-15 17:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] bidi support: fix req->cmd == INT cases Boaz Harrosh
2007-04-15 17:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] bidi support: request_io_part Boaz Harrosh
2007-04-29 15:49   ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-04-15 17:33 ` [PATCH 4/4] bidi support: bidirectional request Boaz Harrosh
2007-04-28 19:48   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-04-29 15:48     ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-04-29 18:49       ` James Bottomley
2007-04-30 11:11         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2007-04-30 11:53           ` Benny Halevy
2007-04-30 11:59             ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-30 14:52               ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-04-30 14:51                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-30 15:12                   ` Benny Halevy
2007-05-01 18:22                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-01 18:57                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-01 19:01                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-04-30 13:05           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-30 13:07             ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-01 19:50           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-04-16 18:03 ` [PATCH 0/4] bidi support: block layer bidirectional io Douglas Gilbert

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