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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: SATA Target mode & libata
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:05:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071108210508.GA12845@havoc.gtf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4733764D.80203@rtr.ca>

On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 03:49:17PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 03:19:52PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
> ..
> >>MMmm..  I wonder what the most common use case is for target mode?
> >>
> >>Everybody I've dealt with thus far uses it as a high-speed local comms 
> >>interface,
> >>which would suggest that it might be done as a network interface 
> >>(ethernet emulation).
> >>
> >>But that would confusingly go across driver subsystems,
> >>despite that this is how it actually is used.
> >
> >The low-level driver itself will just be a dumb DMA send/receive engine,
> >with submit/completion APIs highly similar to the existing ones.  Then
> >you can easily provide a network interface interface (not a typo) on top
> >of that.
> ..
> 
> The obvious BIG difference is that in host mode, *we* initiate 
> communcations,
> whereas in target mode, it has to just sit there waiting for a host to say 
> something.
> 
> That's a pretty big change from how libata operates today,
> in just about every respect.

Not at all -- both initiator and target modes have the exact same tasks:  
1) send stuff to hardware, 2) receive hardware responses.

On modern SAS/SATA hardware, you have both command and response queues.

On modern SATA hardware, you have command queue and a received FIS list,
which provides essentially the same services.

Thus SATA target mode will simply need a "here is data I just received
from the wire" hook, and the rest of the infrastructure already exists.

Target mode will re-use ->qc_issue, and need a new ata_receive_fis()
function for asynchronously received FIS's (H2D FIS, etc.)

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-08 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <00b501c81ace$ece895f0$6200a8c0@jameshsu>
2007-10-30 10:24 ` Should be Acard ATP8620 2SATA / 1 IDE driver Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01  8:47   ` jameshsu
     [not found]     ` <025c01c82016$fbcf3810$d400a8c0@laurence>
     [not found]       ` <025001c82067$d76c04c0$6200a8c0@jameshsu>
2007-11-07 22:13         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-07 22:16           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]           ` <001f01c821b0$20b6c9f0$6200a8c0@jameshsu>
     [not found]             ` <02d301c821e2$25dc01c0$d400a8c0@laurence>
2007-11-08 11:34               ` Re:Acard ATP8620 2SATA / 1 IDE driver - AHCI.C Nov082007 jameshsu
2007-11-08 16:22                 ` Acard " Jeff Garzik
2007-11-08 19:52                   ` Mark Lord
2007-11-08 20:09                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-08 20:19                       ` Mark Lord
2007-11-08 20:31                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-08 20:49                           ` SATA Target mode & libata Mark Lord
2007-11-08 21:05                             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-11-27 10:18                   ` Acard ATP8620 2SATA / 1 IDE driver - AHCI.C Nov082007 jameshsu
2007-11-07 22:30         ` [PATCH] Re: Should be Acard ATP8620 2SATA / 1 IDE driver Jeff Garzik
     [not found]           ` <005801c821fa$892827f0$6200a8c0@jameshsu>
2007-11-08 16:18             ` Jeff Garzik

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