From: Ken Moffat <zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: bzolnier@gmail.com, muli@il.ibm.com, jdmason@kudzu.us,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org
Subject: Re: "ide=reverse" do we still need this?
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:08:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080219150841.GA2965@deepthought> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080213153249.GA21749@deepthought>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 03:32:49PM +0000, Ken Moffat wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:43:04PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> >
> > Can't you just boot with /dev/disk/by-id/ and an initramfs to not have
> > to worry about such a thing in the future?
> >
Initramfs isn't something I've ever tried, so I'm not about to rush
into it on the server. Maybe I'll try it on a desktop one day.
Anyway, I've now got it running without ide=reverse, details follow
for anybody else who gets a similar problem in the future.
> Can comebody remind me what the initramfs is for in that situation,
> please ? From the little I've noticed, I thought the /dev/disk/by-id
> part went into fstab ? At the moment, I just build the things I
> think I need in to the kernel on that box, without modules.
>
And for the next person asking this, it seems to be so that you
can specify the root= parameter.
> Anyway, I'll try to find time to read my notes to see if I can
> identify what happened/when, and to take the box down again so I
> can try to confirm exactly what the problem is, if it still exists.
> I certainly won't be taking it down until I've written my weekly
> backups to tape at the weekend, so maybe not before next week.
>
Turns out I was wrong about having a SATA disk for the system - I
used to, but then I needed to separate the backups into separate r/o
and r/w filesystems when nfs no longer let me export part of a ro fs
as rw. In the change, my staging area for writing to tape or DVD
moved to the system disk, and the only big-enough disk I could get
locally was parallel ide. So in that setup, ide on a card comes
first.
> > Have you tried the PATA drivers instead of IDE to see if this solves the
> > "moves around" issue? If they work, then you would not need the command
> > line option at all.
>
My first thought was to try using libata for the drives on the
add-on card (sii0680), although it's marked as experimental. Maybe
I picked the wrong driver, but they didn't show up. Reverted to
previous config.
Changed to mount-by-label so that I don't have to change fstab for
the old and new kernels.
Moved the main drive and the CD to libata (sii still old IDE) -
specify sda instead of hda in root=, change system scripts referencing
drives by name (for SMART - system disk is again -d ata, the data raid
moved from hd{e,g} to hd{a,c}), now seems to be working but I expect
I'll notice a few things more in my scripts over the next days.
I also discovered that lilo needed the real node specified in root=
to exist. It complained, so I added a symlink to the hdaX node -
panic'd trying to load rootfs from 0307. Reboot to old kernel, run mknod on /dev,
repeat, booted.
Ken
--
das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-19 15:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-13 0:15 "ide=reverse" do we still need this? Greg KH
2008-02-13 0:16 ` pci_get_device_reverse(), why does Calgary " Greg KH
2008-02-13 2:17 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-13 4:45 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 12:34 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-02-13 17:28 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 18:16 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 22:20 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-02-13 23:41 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 0:02 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-02-14 4:58 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 13:09 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-02-14 7:44 ` [discuss] " Andreas Jaeger
2008-02-14 12:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-02-15 7:17 ` Greg KH
2008-02-20 0:39 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 9:32 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-02-13 17:32 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 17:47 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-02-13 18:14 ` Greg KH
2008-02-15 7:17 ` Greg KH
2008-02-15 7:48 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-02-15 15:20 ` Greg KH
2008-02-15 15:31 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-15 15:46 ` yong xue
2008-02-15 18:28 ` Greg KH
2008-02-17 7:53 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-02-13 1:41 ` "ide=reverse" do we still " Rene Herman
2008-02-13 4:44 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 12:06 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-13 12:16 ` Michael Ellerman
2008-02-13 12:46 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-13 22:39 ` Michael Ellerman
2008-02-13 12:57 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-14 17:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-02-15 13:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-13 2:43 ` Ken Moffat
2008-02-13 4:43 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 15:32 ` Ken Moffat
2008-02-19 15:08 ` Ken Moffat [this message]
2008-02-13 7:54 ` [discuss] " Dirk GOUDERS
2008-02-13 8:26 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 8:54 ` Dirk GOUDERS
2008-02-13 20:00 ` Dirk GOUDERS
2008-02-13 20:48 ` Greg KH
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