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From: FUJITA Tomonori <tomof@acm.org>
To: stern@rowland.harvard.edu
Cc: fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp, tomof@acm.org,
	bharrosh@panasas.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	dougg@torque.net, Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, Mark_Salyzyn@adaptec.com,
	ed.lin@promise.com, linuxraid@amcc.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] sg buffer copy helper functions
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:23:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080317122350F.tomof@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0803161304240.4171-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT)
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:46:52 -0400 (EDT)
> > Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > If nents doesn't change then for_each_sg() won't work right.  There 
> > > > > could be an alternative macro:
> > > > 
> > > > Oops, I thought that for_each_sg is defined like:
> > > > 
> > > > #define for_each_sg(sglist, sg, nr, __i)	\
> > > > 	for (__i = 0, sg = (sglist); __i < (nr) && sg; __i++, sg = sg_next(sg))
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > /*
> > > > >  * Loop over each sg element, stopping at the end of the chain
> > > > >  */
> > > > > #define for_each_sg_all(sglist, sg, __i)	\
> > > > > 	for (__i = 0, sg = (sglist); sg; __i++, sg = sg_next(sg))
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you added this macro to include/linux/scatterlist.h and used it
> > > > > instead of for_each_sg() then you can get rid of nents entirely.  
> > > > > However I'm not sure whether this would be safe.  Do people sometimes 
> > > > > use a subset of the entries in a scatterlist?
> > > > 
> > > > IIRC, some drivers do that (though they might use sg_next).
> > > 
> > > But will usb-storage ever receive a scatterlist like that?  For 
> > > example, if there are three 4096-byte entries in the list, but the 
> > > transfer length is 8192 and nents is 2, then there could be a problem.
> > 
> > If LLDs don't use the padding or drain buffer feature (USB uses
> > neither), scsi midlayer doesn't send such (that is, the block layer
> > doesn't create such).
> 
> Then it should be okay to open-code that loop and test whether sg is 
> NULL.
> 
> > As I explained above, it should be safe with USB. But in general, LLDs
> > should not rely on a scatterlist about how much data they transfer.
> 
> True.  Let's add a comment explaining the situation.  For example:
> 
> 	/* If this routine is called multiple times for a single
> 	 * scatterlist, the nents value will not be updated properly.
> 	 * Transfers will stop when the end of the list is reached,
> 	 * which might not be correct in cases where nents is less than
> 	 * the actual number of entries in the list.  However, if 
> 	 * drivers are careful not to use multiple calls to transfer
> 	 * more data than was requested then this will be safe.
> 	 */
> 	for (sg = *sgl; nents > 0 && sg; --nents, sg = sg_next(sg)) {
> 
> When this change is made, we will be able to convert usb-storage over 
> to using your library routine.

For me, it would be much better to fix USB drivers since LLDs should
not rely on a scatterlist about how much data they transfer, as I
said. If LLDs do that, they are broken. It's not good to add such a
workaround to the common API for broken LLDs.

USB drivers should do something like this if they definitely need to
call this API multiple times:

     done = sg_copy_buffer(buffer, scsi_bufflen(sc) - us->done_length,
     us->done_length += done;


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-17  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1205037877-12843-1-git-send-email-fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
     [not found] ` <47D5415C.3010904@panasas.com>
2008-03-10 22:39   ` [PATCH 00/10] sg buffer copy helper functions FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-11 10:05     ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-11 20:09     ` Alan Stern
2008-03-12  0:14       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-12  0:28         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-12  2:24           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-12 16:04           ` Alan Stern
2008-03-13  0:03             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-13  0:18               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-13 18:34                 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-12 16:01         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-12 16:26           ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-13  0:03           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-13 18:32             ` Alan Stern
2008-03-14  9:35               ` FUJITA Tomonori
     [not found]                 ` <20080314183434J.tomof-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 14:46                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-16 11:55                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-16 17:18                       ` Alan Stern
2008-03-17  3:23                         ` FUJITA Tomonori [this message]
2008-03-17 14:06                           ` Alan Stern

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