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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Summit request for Discussion of future of ATA (libata) and IDE
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:45:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808031945.04160.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080803173254.GI615@1wt.eu>

On Sunday, 3 of August 2008, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 05:39:41PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Actually what a material number of embedded systems need is a single
> > dumb-as-a-rock CF only PIO driver which doesn't suck in large chunks of
> > midlayer code. I'm just not sure that trend will continue as CF is giving
> > way to other smaller media.
> 
> I bet we'll see CF for a long time, because it is the only cheap
> removable media to support IDE emulation and be bootable from an
> unmodified PC BIOS. SD is cheaper and will soon provide larger
> capacities, but it still requires a separate controller and is
> not bootable with standard BIOSes.
> 
> Anyway, in my experience, libata supports CF on embedded controllers
> pretty well. So maybe we should start marking IDE drivers deprecated
> to encourage people to try libata instead and report breakage if any.

Well, I know of at least one case of PC hardware in which an old IDE driver
basically works while the libata/pata poeple have no idea why their driver
doesn't:

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9157

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-03 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-03 15:57 Kernel Summit request for Discussion of future of ATA (libata) and IDE James Bottomley
2008-08-03 16:39 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 17:10   ` James Bottomley
2008-08-03 18:45     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 19:21       ` James Bottomley
2008-08-03 19:17         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 20:19           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-03 22:07             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 19:46       ` Felix Miata
2008-08-03 22:08         ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-03 22:05           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 22:36             ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-03 23:23             ` Felix Miata
2008-08-04  5:37         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-08-03 17:32   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-08-03 17:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-08-03 17:57       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-08-03 20:22       ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " David Woodhouse
2008-08-04  5:35   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-08-04 13:16   ` Kumar Gala
2008-08-04 13:07     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 20:09 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-03 22:01   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 23:10 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found] <fa.OGeO7gZvBG4obEzRbVltjSebgTQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.KtvYE2B2yrJqUleolhtMPN9ljAQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.AqEKTvguYFAzDFHy/We/8MpOqmo@ifi.uio.no>
2008-08-04 20:07     ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-04 19:55       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:17         ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-04 21:06           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:48             ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06  0:21             ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06  0:44               ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-06  2:30                 ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06 11:27                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-06  8:51               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:55         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 21:43           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 22:45             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 22:52               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-06 11:17                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 22:12         ` Mark Lord
2008-08-04 22:00           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 20:37       ` Jeff Garzik

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