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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] libata: Implement disk shock protection support
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:14:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080805131417.GC8569@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4897D16F.3000504@shaw.ca>

On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 10:05:03PM -0600, Robert Hancock wrote:
> Yes, from what I've seen on these laptops, it doesn't take much to  
> trigger the shock protection in Windows - lifting the front of the  
> laptop off the table an inch and dropping it will do it, 

A few years ago, I had a Thinkpad T21 laptop, accidentally slip
through my butterfingers and dropped about an inch before it landed on
the table.  Unfortunately, (a) the Thinkpad T21 laptop was rather
heavy (compared to modern laptops), (b) it didn't have the rubber
"bubble" on the bottom of the laptop to cushion the landing as the T22
and T23's had (and I'm sure I know why it was added), and (c) the hard
drive was active at the time.  It was enough to cause a head crash and
Linux immediately started reporting an exponentially increasing number
of write errors; the hard drive was totally unusable within an hour or
so.

So there's a reason why the anti-shock protection is set at a rather
sensitive level...    

The real right answer though is to buy one of the laptop drives (such
as the Seagate Momentus 7200.2 or 7200.3) which has the anti-shock
detection built directly into the hard drive.  That way you don't have
to have a daemon that sits in the OS waking up the CPU some 20 to 30
times a second and burning up your battery even when the laptop is
idle.

							- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-05 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-08-05  4:05         ` [PATCH 3/5] libata: Implement disk shock protection support Robert Hancock
2008-08-05 13:14           ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2008-08-05 14:29             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-08-05 15:14             ` Eric Piel
2008-08-05 19:59             ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-05 22:57               ` Elias Oltmanns
     [not found]             ` <48986E3A.5020707@tremplin-utc.net>
2008-08-05 20:00               ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-05  4:16     ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-05  7:49       ` Tejun Heo
2008-07-26  6:20 [RFC] Disk shock protection in GNU/Linux Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-26  6:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] libata: Implement disk shock protection support Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-01  7:19   ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-01 22:34     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03  3:19       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-03 13:05         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 13:58           ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-04 13:43       ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-04 13:26     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-04 14:12       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-04 16:54         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-04 23:26           ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-04 14:28     ` Gabor Gombas
2008-08-04 14:13       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 14:35       ` Tejun Heo

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