From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Shem Multinymous <multinymous@gmail.com>,
Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>,
Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Laptop shock detection and harddisk protection
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:48:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080817194838.GC4043@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C948A6.3080404@kernel.org>
Hi!
> >> 2. If we're gonna unify interface, how much can we unify the backend?
> >> Some devices are based on polling, others interrupt. For polling,
> >> is it better to delegate the whole polling to userland or is it
> >> better to do some of it in kernel (tp_smapi seems to be doing
> >> this)?
> >
> > The ThinkPad accelerometer needs to be polled at very regular
> > intervals (max jitter on the order of 10ms), which sounds like a job
> > for the kernel.
>
> Yes, I agree.
>
> > This is because in ThinkPads we actually have a 4-level pile:
> > [hdapsd userspace] -> [hdaps kernel] -> [embedded controller] ->
> > [accelerometer A2D]
> > What the kernel polls is actually is the H8S embedded controller (EC)
> > chip, which in turn does its own polling of the accelerometer A2D.
> > Now, the EC has a tiny buffer and strange buffering semantics, and it
> > has its own internal clock, so the software->EC polling should be very
> > regular to minmize EC buffer overflows/underruns.
>
> So, I think the whole polling should be implemented inside the kernel
> and the kernel should notify userland when new data is available,
> which is about what the current joystick implementation does and can
> be achieved using sysfs_notify_event().
I like joystick/input interface slightly better. In some cases,
machines with accelerometers (openmoko) use them for input primarily.
HP interface will be more specialized (but less useful); still userland daemon can handle the differences...
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-17 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-10 16:59 Laptop shock detection and harddisk protection Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 19:43 ` Renato S. Yamane
2008-09-11 10:26 ` Austin Zhang
2008-09-11 11:18 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 16:08 ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-11 16:34 ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-17 19:48 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-09-11 20:00 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-17 19:51 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-17 15:21 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-17 19:36 ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-11 20:25 ` Shem Multinymous
2008-08-17 19:30 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-11 23:35 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-12 16:59 ` Greg KH
2008-08-17 19:45 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-17 18:04 ` Greg KH
2008-09-18 11:18 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-19 9:03 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-09-24 5:14 ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-07 21:19 ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 21:40 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-07 22:03 ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 23:03 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-07 22:55 ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-15 8:29 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-15 18:09 ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-15 20:10 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-14 4:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-11 23:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] <baBmH-48R-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-09-12 13:28 ` Bodo Eggert
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