linux-ide.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: jeff@garzik.org, tj@kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata bridge limits
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:17:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080826101713.GW20055@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080826104237.4b1cd7f6@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Tue, Aug 26 2008, Alan Cox wrote:
> > a) Why was this limit put in there? It limits both transfer speed and
> >    request size. If it's due to some dodgy drive/bridge, perhaps we
> >    should just check for that and only apply the transfer limits when
> >    detected (or blacklisted). On the bridge setups I've seen, I've never
> >    had problems with killing the limit.
> 
> Various old bridges need it - and you can't detect the bridge type.

Not generically, but for some devices (like the Mtron) we can.

> > b) Put in a whitelist, easy to do for these Mtron drives.
> > 
> > c) Add a parameter to turn it on (or off, depending on the default) for
> >    a specific drive.
> > 
> > I'm in favor of a) personally, but I'd like to hear why the check was
> > added originally first. Dropping 20-30% of the throughput performance on
> > the floor without option seems like a really bad choice.
> 
> Can I suggest 
> 
> d) Assume the bridge is ok but teach the SATA error handling code that if
> there is a timeout immediately with such a bridge then to flip down to
> UDMA5 and knobble the transfer length.

That would be nice, assuming that we can rely on safe behaviour (eg not
data corrupting badness).

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-26 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-26  7:28 libata bridge limits Jens Axboe
2008-08-26  9:42 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-26 10:17   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-08-26 10:43     ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-26 10:38       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-26 11:23         ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-26 12:25           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-26 12:45             ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-26 17:25       ` Gwendal Grignou
2008-08-26 17:45         ` James Bottomley
2008-08-26 19:25           ` Gwendal Grignou
2008-08-26 20:55             ` James Bottomley
2008-08-26 12:32     ` Brad Campbell
2008-08-26 12:48       ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-26 12:55         ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-26 13:06           ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-26 13:58             ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-26 14:20               ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-26 14:26                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-26 14:25               ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-26 19:36               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-08-26 22:37                 ` Mark Lord
2008-08-27 13:23                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-31  5:45                   ` Jeff Garzik

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20080826101713.GW20055@kernel.dk \
    --to=jens.axboe@oracle.com \
    --cc=alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
    --cc=jeff@garzik.org \
    --cc=linux-ide@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).