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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Tejun Heo <teheo@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Dongjun Shin <djshin90@gmail.com>,
	chris.mason@oracle.com
Subject: Re: about TRIM/DISCARD support and barriers
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:15:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081125091530.GS26308@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081125032851.GC25548@parisc-linux.org>

On Mon, Nov 24 2008, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:03:50AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > And _then_ we can think about special cases which let us merge
> > non-contiguous discards.
> 
> I've been thinking about what a solution would look like that lets us
> send non-contiguous discards down, and I don't like the look of any of
> them.  Right now, discard bios get turned into discard requests and
> those are handled by the block device drivers as being a discard of the
> range (sector, sector + nr_sectors).
> 
> If we're going to allow discontiguous ranges to be merged into one
> request, then we need somewhere to store the ranges.  The obvious answer
> is in the ->bio list.  But then, an unconverted driver will discard the
> wrong sectors (presuming nr_sectors gets updated to the length of all
> discarded sectors).

It's completely parallel to normal fs merges, I think it's a good fit.
And it's not like there are a lot of drivers to check for this
particular command type.

> There's also murmurings from vendors that they want to restrict the
> number of ranges transmitted in a single UNMAP/TRIM command, and that's
> more information to be passed to the elevator.

If need be, then we can just add a setting for that like we have for
request sizes, segments, etc.

> How about an interface that lets the driver's discard function scan back
> through the queue and see if there are any more discard bios queued up?
> If there are, (and it has room for them) it can retire them from the
> queue early. 

Irk, that sounds pretty horrible and slow...

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-25  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-23  4:46 about TRIM/DISCARD support and barriers Tejun Heo
2008-11-23  7:11 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-23  7:57   ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24  5:40     ` Dongjun Shin
2008-11-24  5:45       ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24  5:57       ` James Bottomley
2008-11-23 12:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-23 13:39     ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-23 22:52       ` James Bottomley
2008-11-24  9:03         ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-24 18:42           ` James Bottomley
2008-11-24 18:52             ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-24 18:57               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 19:08                 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-25  9:16                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 19:09               ` James Bottomley
2008-11-25  3:28           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-25  9:15             ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-11-24  3:01       ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-28 13:21 ` Raz Ben-Yehuda
2008-11-29 22:57   ` Tejun Heo

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