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From: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cmd64x: irq 14: nobody cared - system is dreadfully slow
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:47:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906220547.55470.elendil@planet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200906220034.22430.bzolnier@gmail.com>

On Monday 22 June 2009, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> I'm really tired of this kind of hostility towards IDE changes and I
> also don't have time for such unproductive discussions.

I can see your PoV, but OTOH I think you'll have to agree that having a 
driver break very early in the 2.6.29 cycle and not finding out about it 
until 2 full cycles later is not a good thing.

Although PATA has its own problems and the whole switch from IDE to PATA 
has had much more than its fair share of issues, it is a fact that most 
distros and users _are_ switching to the PATA drivers. The only reason I 
ran into this is because Debian is one of the very few who has not yet 
done so and my U10 is one of the few boxes I run a distro kernel on.

Your and Borislav's (and others) cleanup efforts have been huge and I've 
absolutely no doubt that they have brought major structural improvements 
to the IDE subsystem. One can but wonder whether PATA would have happened 
at all if that effort had started 5 years or so earlier...

But the problem remains that getting enough (especially timely) testing 
will be an ever increasing problem for the IDE drivers, simply because 
most users, and especially those users who do kernel testing during 
development cycles, no longer use them. For that reason I think that 
David's standpoint that IDE should be treated as a purely legacy 
subsystem makes sense.

Let me finish by joining others in thanking you for your huge efforts over 
the past years and complimenting you on the graceful way you're allowing 
this maintainer change to happen. I hope you will find a new challenge in 
the kernel; it would be a great pity to lose your skills and dedication.

Cheers,
FJP

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-22  3:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-20 21:52 cmd64x: irq 14: nobody cared - system is dreadfully slow Frans Pop
2009-06-21  0:19 ` David Miller
2009-06-21  4:47   ` Frans Pop
2009-06-21 12:46   ` Frans Pop
2009-06-21 13:33     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-21 20:14       ` Frans Pop
2009-06-22  1:56     ` David Miller
2009-06-22  4:28       ` Frans Pop
2009-06-22  5:45         ` David Miller
2009-06-22  6:43           ` Frans Pop
2009-06-22  6:44             ` David Miller
2009-06-22 11:21             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-22 14:04               ` Frans Pop
2009-06-22 14:39                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-22 15:16                   ` Frans Pop
2009-06-22 17:38                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-22 19:01                       ` Frans Pop
2009-06-22 21:35                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-23  7:51                           ` [PATCH] ide-cd: Improve "weird block size" error message Frans Pop
2009-06-23  7:57                             ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-23  8:02                               ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-23 23:03                                 ` David Miller
2009-06-23  8:20                               ` Frans Pop
2009-06-23 10:59                             ` David Miller
2009-06-23 11:13                               ` Frans Pop
2009-06-23 11:18                                 ` David Miller
2009-06-23 21:30                               ` Frans Pop
2009-06-23 23:01                                 ` David Miller
2009-06-29 11:19                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-06-23 10:15                           ` cmd64x: irq 14: nobody cared - system is dreadfully slow David Miller
2009-06-23 14:58                             ` Frans Pop
2009-06-23 16:13                               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-23 23:04                                 ` David Miller
2009-06-23 10:47                         ` David Miller
2009-06-23 10:43                 ` David Miller
2009-07-31 14:08                   ` Frans Pop
2009-08-01  5:46                     ` David Miller
2009-08-05 20:43                     ` [stable] " Greg KH
2009-06-21 13:15   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-21 21:19     ` David Miller
2009-06-21 22:34       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-21 22:57         ` David Miller
2009-06-21 23:13           ` New IDE maintainer (was Re: cmd64x: irq 14: nobody cared - system is dreadfully slow) David Miller
2009-06-21 23:45             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-21 23:52               ` New IDE maintainer David Miller
2009-06-22  0:53               ` New IDE maintainer (was Re: cmd64x: irq 14: nobody cared - system is dreadfully slow) Matthew Wilcox
2009-06-22  0:00             ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-22  0:20               ` New IDE maintainer David Miller
2009-06-22  3:39             ` New IDE maintainer (was Re: cmd64x: irq 14: nobody cared - system is dreadfully slow) Greg Freemyer
2009-06-22 17:03               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-06-22 17:11                 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-22 17:21                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-06-22 17:32                     ` Alan Cox
2009-06-22  3:47         ` Frans Pop [this message]
2009-06-21 15:43   ` cmd64x: irq 14: nobody cared - system is dreadfully slow Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-21 21:21     ` David Miller
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2009-06-20 21:39 Frans Pop

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