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From: Chris Webb <chris@arachsys.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	Andrei Tanas <andrei@tanas.ca>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@redhat.com>,
	Mark Lord <mlord@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: MD/RAID time out writing superblock
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:00:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090917120030.GB13854@arachsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19121.33823.893569.486518@notabene.brown>

Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> writes:

> For the O_SYNC:
>   I think this is a RAID1 - is that correct?

Hi Neil. It's a RAID10n2 of six disks, but I've also seen the behaviour on a
RAID1 of two disks around the time of 2.6.27.

>   With RAID1, as soon as any IO request arrives, resync is suspended and
>   as soon as all resync requests complete, the IO is permitted to
>   proceed.
>   So normal IO takes absolute precedence over resync IO.
> 
>   So I am very surprised to here that O_SYNC writes deadlock
>   completed.
>   As O_SYNC writes are serialised, there will be a moment between
>   every pair when there is no IO pending.  This will allow resync to
>   get one "window" of resync IO started between each pair of writes.
>   So I can well believe that a sequence of O_SYNC writes are a couple
>   of orders of magnitude slower when resync is happening than without.
>   But it shouldn't deadlock completely.
>   Once you get about 64 sectors of O_SYNC IO through, the resync
>   should notice and back-off and resync IO will be limited to the
>   'minimum' speed.

The symptoms seem to be that I can't read or write to /dev/mdX but I can
read from the underlying /dev/sd* devices fine, at pretty much full speed. I
didn't try writing to them as there's lots of live customer data on the RAID
arrays!

The configuration is lvm2 (i.e. device-mapper linear targets) on top of md
on top of sd, and we've seen the symptoms with the virtual machines
accessing the logical volumes configured to open in O_SYNC mode, and with
them configured to open in O_DIRECT mode. During the deadlock, cat
/proc/mdstat does return promptly (i.e. not blocked), and shows a slow and
gradually falling sync rate---I think that there's no sync writing going on
either and the drives are genuinely idle. We have to reset the machine to
bring it back to life and a graceful reboot fails.

Anyway, I see this relatively infrequently, so what I'll try to do is to
create a reproducible test case and then follow up to you and the RAID list
with that. At the moment, I understand that my reports is a bit anecdotal,
and without a proper idea of what conditions are needed to make it happen
its pretty much impossible to diagnose or work on!

Cheers,

Chris.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-17 12:00 UTC|newest]

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2009-08-26 18:12                     ` MD/RAID: what's wrong with sector 1953519935? Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27  0:07                       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-27  1:37                         ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27  2:33                       ` Robert Hancock
     [not found]                       ` <d086b110526f8bac2f562850dfc70b03@localhost>
2009-08-27 21:57                         ` MD/RAID time out writing superblock Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31  8:10                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:04                             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31 12:20                               ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-07 11:44                                 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-07 11:59                                   ` Chris Webb
2009-09-09 12:02                                     ` Chris Webb
2009-09-14  7:41                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14  7:44                                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 12:48                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-09-14 13:05                                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:25                                               ` Mark Lord
2009-09-16 23:19                                                 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 13:29                                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:32                                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:37                                                     ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:35                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 16:16                                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 16:17                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-09-18 17:05                                                           ` Chris Webb
2009-09-21 10:26                                                             ` Chris Webb
2009-09-21 19:47                                                               ` Mark Lord
2009-09-22  6:16                                                               ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-20 18:36                                                         ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-14 13:11                                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 13:24                                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:02                                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 14:34                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 13:14                                         ` Gabor Gombas
2009-09-07 16:55                                   ` Allan Wind
2009-09-07 23:26                                     ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14  7:46                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 21:13                                         ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14 22:23                                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-16 22:28                                 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-16 23:47                                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17  0:34                                     ` Neil Brown
2009-09-17 12:00                                       ` Chris Webb [this message]
2009-09-17 11:57                                     ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:44                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 16:36                                         ` Allan Wind
2009-09-18  0:16                                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-18  2:47                                             ` Allan Wind
2009-09-18 17:07                                         ` Chris Webb
2009-09-20 18:46                                         ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-21  0:02                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2009-09-17 13:35                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 15:47                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:21                             ` Mark Lord
2009-08-31 23:45                               ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:07                                 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-01 13:15                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:30                                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-01 13:47                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-09-01 14:18                                         ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-02 21:58                                   ` Allan Wind
2009-09-04 19:39                                     ` Andrei Tanas

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