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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, bphilips@suse.de,
	yinghai@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, khali@linux-fr.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] usb: use IRQ watching
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:47:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100615174742.GA21616@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C17BA0C.4010208@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 07:36:12PM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 06/15/2010 03:36 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not what we want. We want structured
> > data, and a generic channel to pass all sort of errors through, and a
> > userspace part to handle it in a sane way. Many error sources may also
> > not have a device path in /sys, and therefore no uevent to send.
> > Uevents/udev just seem so convinient because it's already there, but I
> > think, has too many limitations to provide the needed functionality.
> > Besides the fact that nothing listens to these events in userspace
> > today -- it's a lot more to think through and work on than passing
> > things through uevents, especially some generic classification and
> > structured data passing, which is needed, instead of the current
> > free-text 'dmsg' or the property-based stuff in uevents. I'm very sure
> > it's the wrong facility to use.
> 
> Yeah, well, if you say so.  It would be very nice to have report this
> type of critical events in somewhat formatted way so that they can be
> processed automatically and presented to the user in more accessible
> manner.  I doubt requiring strict structure would work in the long
> run.  It'll likely end up being able to cover only portion of what's
> originally designed and and stagnate in time.  I think control
> information including identification and severity + free form string
> would be much more manageable.
> 
> It would really be great to have something like that.  I can easily
> think of several libata events the user should be notified of from the
> top of my head but currently are buried in dmesg.

That is what Andi Kleen and others are working on at the moment.  I
think he's posted to lkml about it, and there are going to be more talks
about it at the Plumbers conference this year.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-15 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-13 15:31 [PATCHSET] irq: better lost/spurious irq handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 01/12] irq: cleanup irqfixup Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 02/12] irq: make spurious poll timer per desc Tejun Heo
2010-06-15  5:10   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-06-15 16:34     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 03/12] irq: use desc->poll_timer for irqpoll Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 04/12] irq: kill IRQF_IRQPOLL Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 05/12] irq: misc preparations for further changes Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 06/12] irq: implement irq_schedule_poll() Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 07/12] irq: improve spurious IRQ handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 08/12] irq: implement IRQ watching Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 09/12] irq: implement IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-14  9:21   ` Jiri Slaby
2010-06-14  9:43     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14  9:46       ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17  3:48   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-17  8:18     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 11:12       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-17 11:23         ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 11:43           ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 15:54             ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 16:02               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-17 16:47                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18  6:26                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-18  9:23                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18  9:45                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-19  8:35     ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19  8:42       ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19  9:00         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19  9:03           ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 14:54           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-19 19:49             ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 20:07               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 10/12] irq: add comment about overall design of lost/spurious IRQ handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 12/12] usb: use IRQ watching Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:41   ` Greg KH
2010-06-14 21:52     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 22:11       ` Greg KH
2010-06-14 22:19       ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 10:30         ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 11:05           ` Jean Delvare
2010-06-15 13:30             ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 11:20           ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 13:36             ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 17:36               ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 17:47                 ` Greg KH [this message]
2010-06-15 17:52                   ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-21 13:51   ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-21 20:27     ` Greg KH
2010-06-22  7:32       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1276443098-20653-12-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org>
2010-06-21 13:52   ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-25  0:22   ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-25  7:44     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-25  9:48       ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-25  9:51         ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 13:02           ` [PATCH 1/2 #upstream] sata_fsl,mv,nv: prepare for NCQ command completion update Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 13:03             ` [PATCH 2/2 #upstream] libata: always use ata_qc_complete_multiple() for NCQ command completions Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 22:03               ` Jeff Garzik
2010-08-01 23:47             ` [PATCH 1/2 #upstream] sata_fsl,mv,nv: prepare for NCQ command completion update Jeff Garzik
2010-08-02  7:18               ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-04  4:22                 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  3:45       ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  3:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  8:31         ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-26  9:16           ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  9:44             ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-02 14:41               ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-02 14:53                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-10 10:06                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-14  7:58                   ` Jeff Garzik
2010-07-14  9:26                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-27 17:37                 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-07-02 14:59 ` [GIT PULL] irq: better lost/spurious irq handling Tejun Heo

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