From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, bphilips@suse.de,
yinghai@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
stern@rowland.harvard.edu, khali@linux-fr.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] usb: use IRQ watching
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:47:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100615174742.GA21616@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C17BA0C.4010208@kernel.org>
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 07:36:12PM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 06/15/2010 03:36 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not what we want. We want structured
> > data, and a generic channel to pass all sort of errors through, and a
> > userspace part to handle it in a sane way. Many error sources may also
> > not have a device path in /sys, and therefore no uevent to send.
> > Uevents/udev just seem so convinient because it's already there, but I
> > think, has too many limitations to provide the needed functionality.
> > Besides the fact that nothing listens to these events in userspace
> > today -- it's a lot more to think through and work on than passing
> > things through uevents, especially some generic classification and
> > structured data passing, which is needed, instead of the current
> > free-text 'dmsg' or the property-based stuff in uevents. I'm very sure
> > it's the wrong facility to use.
>
> Yeah, well, if you say so. It would be very nice to have report this
> type of critical events in somewhat formatted way so that they can be
> processed automatically and presented to the user in more accessible
> manner. I doubt requiring strict structure would work in the long
> run. It'll likely end up being able to cover only portion of what's
> originally designed and and stagnate in time. I think control
> information including identification and severity + free form string
> would be much more manageable.
>
> It would really be great to have something like that. I can easily
> think of several libata events the user should be notified of from the
> top of my head but currently are buried in dmesg.
That is what Andi Kleen and others are working on at the moment. I
think he's posted to lkml about it, and there are going to be more talks
about it at the Plumbers conference this year.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-15 17:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-13 15:31 [PATCHSET] irq: better lost/spurious irq handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 01/12] irq: cleanup irqfixup Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 02/12] irq: make spurious poll timer per desc Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 5:10 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-06-15 16:34 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 03/12] irq: use desc->poll_timer for irqpoll Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 04/12] irq: kill IRQF_IRQPOLL Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 05/12] irq: misc preparations for further changes Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 06/12] irq: implement irq_schedule_poll() Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 07/12] irq: improve spurious IRQ handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 08/12] irq: implement IRQ watching Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 09/12] irq: implement IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 9:21 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-06-14 9:43 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 9:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 3:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-17 8:18 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 11:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-17 11:23 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 11:43 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 15:54 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 16:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-17 16:47 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18 6:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-18 9:23 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18 9:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-19 8:35 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 8:42 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 9:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 9:03 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 14:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-19 19:49 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 20:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 10/12] irq: add comment about overall design of lost/spurious IRQ handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 12/12] usb: use IRQ watching Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:41 ` Greg KH
2010-06-14 21:52 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 22:11 ` Greg KH
2010-06-14 22:19 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 10:30 ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 11:05 ` Jean Delvare
2010-06-15 13:30 ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 11:20 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 13:36 ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 17:36 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 17:47 ` Greg KH [this message]
2010-06-15 17:52 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-21 13:51 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-21 20:27 ` Greg KH
2010-06-22 7:32 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1276443098-20653-12-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org>
2010-06-21 13:52 ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 0:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-25 7:44 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 9:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-25 9:51 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 13:02 ` [PATCH 1/2 #upstream] sata_fsl,mv,nv: prepare for NCQ command completion update Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 13:03 ` [PATCH 2/2 #upstream] libata: always use ata_qc_complete_multiple() for NCQ command completions Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 22:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-08-01 23:47 ` [PATCH 1/2 #upstream] sata_fsl,mv,nv: prepare for NCQ command completion update Jeff Garzik
2010-08-02 7:18 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-04 4:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26 3:45 ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26 3:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26 8:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-26 9:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26 9:44 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-02 14:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-02 14:53 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-10 10:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-14 7:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-07-14 9:26 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-27 17:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-07-02 14:59 ` [GIT PULL] irq: better lost/spurious irq handling Tejun Heo
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