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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PMP and SEMB messages to SEP
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:20:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110117172054.GJ27123@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110117171312.GL16039@MAIL.13thfloor.at>

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 06:13:12PM +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > So perhaps it should be. If you look at the equivalent topology on
> > SAS, our expanders have a bsg device node precisely so that we can do
> > this.
> 
> I agree, the PMP should get a device or at least some kind of
> interface to address them, especially as the SATA topology can
> get quite complicated too, for example it seems that PMPs can
> be daisy chained in an infinite sequence like this
> 
>        /      /      /
>  --[PM]---[PM]---[PM]-- - -
>        \      \      \

Oh, no, that's not allowed.  You can't address destinations that way.
PMP is primarily a switch, not a router.

> > Sure, as long as it speaks standard ses-2, there shouldn't be a
> > protocol problem. The main problem is recognition: ses has to bind
> > to an enclosure device. It can bind either to an explicit device
> > (about all the enclosures I've seen so far) where the ses device has
> > a separate address in the SCSI topology or an implicit device (where
> > another SCSI device indicates it has an enclosure port embedded in
> > it). As currently coded, our ses driver only does the former probably
> > the best way is to expose the ses device via libata and we'll simply
> > bind to it.
> 
> so AHCI em_messages use standard ses-2 or did I misinterpret
> this (for me cryptical) information?

AFAIK, it just doesn't care.  It could be ses-2 or whatever else.  It
just transmits the binary blob it receives via sysfs and vice-versa.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-17 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-13 19:25 PMP and SEMB messages to SEP Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-14 14:20 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-14 16:59   ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-14 17:04     ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-14 17:37       ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-17 15:40         ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-17 16:18           ` James Bottomley
2011-01-17 17:13             ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-17 17:20               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-01-17 17:34                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-17 17:39                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-17 17:48                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-17 18:05                       ` James Bottomley
2011-01-17 18:21                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-17 18:27                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-17 17:18             ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-17 17:21               ` James Bottomley
2011-01-17 17:24                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-25  3:07                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-01-25 14:14                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-03 17:39                       ` Herbert Poetzl
2011-04-03 18:38                         ` James Bottomley
2011-01-17 18:55             ` Jeff Garzik

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