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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
To: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:58:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110126125813.GA26952@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110126124954.GC24527@laptop>


* Ahmed S. Darwish <darwish.07-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> - The latest approach (proposed by Linus) is to forget the disk: jump to
>   real-mode, but display the kernel log in a fancy format (with scroll
>   ups and downs) instead.
> 
>   Will re-initializing the VGA registers to their POST state be possible?
>   If not, what about a "fail-safe" VGA driver?
> 
> I'm most likely going to implement either the second or the third point,
> so I'd really appreciate some input.

The third one suggested by Linus is the most useful and most direct one IMO. Such a 
'oops mode' screen would be useful for regular kernel crashes as well.

Also, have you tried BIOS warm reset vector, which is supposed to reboot without 
clearing RAM contents - how well does it work in practice on typical laptops? If on 
crash we could reboot without memory getting cleared that would open up a vast area 
of space to store the kernel log into (RAM).

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-26 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-25 13:47 [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 13:51 ` [PATCH -next 1/2][RFC] x86: Saveoops: Switch to real-mode and call BIOS Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 13:53 ` [PATCH -next 2/2][RFC] x86: Saveoops: Reserve low memory and register code Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:29   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26  9:04     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 14:09 ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Ingo Molnar
2011-01-25 15:08   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 17:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26 11:44       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-03 14:36     ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-03 15:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-03 17:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-03 21:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 15:36   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 16:02     ` James Bottomley
2011-01-25 17:05       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:20         ` James Bottomley
2011-01-25 22:10         ` Mark Lord
2011-01-25 22:16           ` Randy Dunlap
2011-01-25 22:45             ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-25 22:58               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26  0:26                 ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-31  2:59                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-01-31 10:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-25 17:32     ` Tony Luck
2011-01-25 17:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 19:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-25 14:49 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-28  7:59   ` Jan Ceuleers
2011-01-25 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTinU0KYiCd4p=z+=ojbkeEoT2G+CAYvdRU02KJEn-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-26 12:49     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-26 12:58       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20110126125813.GA26952-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-26 13:34           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-26 14:00             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <20110126140030.GB30064-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-27  4:35                 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                   ` <4D40F5FD.6090507-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-27 11:41                     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                       ` <20110127114113.GB20279-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-27 15:47                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                           ` <m1aaimxs9h.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-27 16:12                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26 23:07       ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]         ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53019438EABF-osO9UTpF0URqS6EAlXoojrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-26 23:16           ` Dave Jones
     [not found]             ` <20110126231620.GA14807-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-26 23:21               ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]                 ` <20110126233033.GB14807@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53019438EBB6@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]                     ` <4D40F7F1.3020509@zytor.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20110127120039.GD20279@elte.hu>
2011-01-27 18:35                         ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]                         ` <4D4197CB.9070201@zytor.com>
     [not found]                           ` <20110127162429.GB26437@elte.hu>
2011-01-27 18:56                             ` Luck, Tony
2011-01-27  1:09           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
     [not found]       ` <20110127021338.GA20334@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <20110127021338.GA20334-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-27  3:33           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-27  4:44           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]             ` <4D40F81E.1030009-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-27  5:26               ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-27  7:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-02-02 11:13                   ` Ahmed S. Darwish

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